Elizabeth said....................."

Elizabeth (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:40 pm Unlike transsexuality, eunuchism is not "in your face" kind of thing. The only people who know are those you tell. Unlike transsexuality, where most people are going to know, except for those who pass extremely well, which is the minority. So even those who might have strong feelings about it, would not be embarrassed to be seen with you or seen as approving of it.

Elizabeth

And for many who are gay and lesbian, who don't "wear it on their sleeve", being homosexual is also not an "in your face" kind of thing. Wanting to be a eunuch is to belong to a micro-minority, perhaps similar in some ways to having mis-matched sexualities (physical and identity). As a male I want to remain male, except for the need, desire, craving (for whatever reason or reasons) to be a eunuch male.

Will I still be gay once I am a eunuch?. I would prefer that, but it is a question I won't know the answer to unless I can become a eunuch. I have tried chemical castration and it appeals to me. According to eunuchs who have also tried chemical castration first before surgical castration there is a significant difference between the two and I can believe that to be true.

What is it we seek? Acceptance, understanding, or avoidance of rejection and critcism? Or all of these? There are a few among us who completely reject the opinions of others and do as they please with complete disregard of opinionism. Most of us who are in some kind of sexual mis-match struggle with our own identities and being true to ourselves only because we do care about what others think of us. If we only thought of ourselves being gay, lesbian, sexually mis-matched, or any other "being different" condition would be overcome with no concern or delay whatsoever.

That we care what others think isn't necessarily a bad thing, except when it overshadows our caring for our own self.

nullorchis (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:20 am And for many who are gay and lesbian, who don't "wear it on their sleeve", being homosexual is also not an "in your face" kind of thing. Wanting to be a eunuch is to belong to a micro-minority, perhaps similar in some ways to having mis-matched sexualities (physical and identity). As a male I want to remain male, except for the need, desire, craving (for whatever reason or reasons) to be a eunuch male.

Will I still be gay once I am a eunuch?. I would prefer that, but it is a question I won't know the answer to unless I can become a eunuch. I have tried chemical castration and it appeals to me. According to eunuchs who have also tried chemical castration first before surgical castration there is a significant difference between the two and I can believe that to be true.

What is it we seek? Acceptance, understanding, or avoidance of rejection and critcism? Or all of these? There are a few among us who completely reject the opinions of others and do as they please with complete disregard of opinionism. Most of us who are in some kind of sexual mis-match struggle with our own identities and being true to ourselves only because we do care about what others think of us. If we only thought of ourselves being gay, lesbian, sexually mis-matched, or any other "being different" condition would be overcome with no concern or delay whatsoever.

That we care what others think isn't necessarily a bad thing, except when it overshadows our caring for our own self.

Some of my old ruminations on topic. Evolving... more at 10:00

http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=10075

tugon (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:07 pm My experiences have not all been positive. My longest friendship remained intact but my next oldest friend sent me a dismissal e-mail. Some friends that seemed accepting have drifted away. Just be careful and remember if you share the knowledge with them they may share it with others.

When I first came out of my gay closet I told a friend of mine at the beginning of my work shift. By the time I my shift was done he had told all of our friends. I was going to tell them all anyway, but still.

You can always tell people that it was because of some medical condition! Think of it this way, How would they check out the facts?

PS...In college a gay friend of mine had to be circumcised. He told me that the Doctor felt it was to tight and might cause cancer. I was the only one on campus he told, but his walking bowlegged was a dead give away if others asked he had a canned response about some surgery. One April 1st day I decided to pull a joke on him and walked up to him then placing my hand on his shoulder I said, "you shared some personal information with me about being circumcised, so I will share something with you! I was castrated a few years ago." Right away he said, "TMI" (To Much Information) and started to freak out. As I walked away to get my ride home I said, "What day is this?"

hi iam sinds this weekend a real eunuch so noby now this none of my friends and not my fam think i wil get it for me self and not coming out white this ore if y coming out dond now how i must tell thate to others

Not too long ago, being gay was thought of as too "intimate" and "sexual" a topic to discuss freely, which is why coming out became so important. Now being gay is a non-issue in most circumstances. I'm not "in your face" about my sexual orientation at all, and yet everyone knows I'm gay because I treat it as casually as I would any other part of my lifestyle. I talk about my partner the way straight people talk about their spouses. If a coworker asks me what I did last night and I was at the local gay bar, I say so. I don't go into grisly details about my sex life, but I'm able to freely discuss the non-sexual aspects of my life that my orientation touches upon. I would like to reach the point where I'm comfortable enough with myself to be just as casual about being a eunuch, to treat it as a non-issue that just happens to be relevant to the conversation at times. Getting there, however, is a process, and the first step is making that conscious decision to talk about it, to begin to trust the people in my life with that little piece of information. I've had a couple other experiences with this now and what I'm finding out is that, just like when I started coming out as gay, most people don't really care. It's just something they didn't know about me before that they do know now.

On a slightly more amusing note, one friend I've discussed this with is very much into spiritualism/astrology/etc. and he said that my being a eunuch explained why my "aura" is so strong, and that it gives me a heightened sensitivity to "spiritual energy." He's now trying to encourage me to explore the "spiritual gifts" that my castration has imparted to me.

Obviously we do certainly see things in such a completely different light than everyone else. One thing to remember is that they HAVE TO date whereas we yes we would like to but the compulsion is not there. I never dated in high school or hardly thereafter. Any way one idea for a tattoo would be to use four horseshoes like as a brand: 'U', upside down U for an 'N', another 'U', and a sideways U for a 'C': 'UNUC'. And by the way I don't like the idea of us being considered to be subservient and despise it and I certainly am NOT. That's why I didn't put idea this into your other thread about tattoos.

EunuchAusTX , Maybe he means that as someone less distracted by the flesh , you can see other people more clearly and with less of the prejudiced that sexual yearnings impose.... less influenced by appearance, able to see someone's soul better...

EunuchAusTX (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:26 am On a slightly more amusing note, one friend I've discussed this with is very much into spiritualism/astrology/etc. and he said that my being a eunuch explained why my "aura" is so strong, and that it gives me a heightened sensitivity to "spiritual energy." He's now trying to encourage me to explore the "spiritual gifts" that my castration has imparted to me.

Milkman (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:43 am EunuchAusTX , Maybe he means that as someone less distracted by the flesh , you can see other people more clearly and with less of the prejudiced that sexual yearnings impose.... less influenced by appearance, able to see someone's soul better...

No, I know this guy pretty well and he meant it literally. If I recall correctly, some ancient cultures had similar beliefs about eunuchs.