Elizabeth (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:22 am I have noticed a very strange coincidence. Everyone who is "cured" of homosexuality or transsexualism, just happens to be Christian. I am sure there is a similar correlation in Islamic countries to that religion and "cured" homosexuality.

I challenge anyone to produce a story of any person changing sexual preference from gay to straight or transsexual to happy with birth sex, who does not belong to a major religion, which they credit with the change.

I have never read a story or met a person who claimed to be cured, who did not also have some type of religious experience running concurrently. Because of what people will do in the name of their god, I discount these as not being legitimate cases of cured people, but people conforming to religious beliefs because they fear eternal damnation.

Elizabeth

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:18 pm Nonuts, I can't agree about g0ys. It does *not* assume there's something wrong with being gay, unless you equate gayness with ass-fucking, which I do not. I've loved men all my life. I like frot, oral, mutual masturbation, etc. With all that, I've never fucked another man up the ass, nor had anyone do that to me.

Just as g0ys describes, I've enjoyed deep love for other men, love which necessarily included physical intimacy. I've never loved a man and wanted to stick my dick up his ass. Why would I? I can only think of negatives surrounding analism.

I'll add that, loving men, I don't want surrogate women. If I wanted a woman, I'd be with a real one. If I want a man, I want a masculine, manly man, not someone who enacts a grotesque caricature of femininity.

I'm not repressed, closeted, self-denying, self-hating, etc. Just the opposite. I'm being who I am. You begin with a false premise, if you begin by saying "to be gay means engaging in anal sex and imitative femininity." I'm gay, or more accurately, I'm somewhere on Kinsey's scale, and unworried about whether I'm correct according to the lights of bullying politicians.

I'm not criticizing anyone who's into anal or female impersonation. People who are have the same right I do to be happy. But they do *not* have the right to tell this ardent cocksucker that he thinks there's something wrong with being gay. I don't elevate my tastes into morality or ideology. Others should do the same, and not treat me as menacing or deluded merely because I don't feel as they feel. There's room in the world for all sorts, and tolerance is a cardinal virtue.

What g0ys tells me is that I'm not alone. There are many who feel as I do. Perhaps very many.

Elizabeth (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:22 am I have noticed a very strange coincidence. Everyone who is "cured" of homosexuality or transsexualism, just happens to be Christian. I am sure there is a similar correlation in Islamic countries to that religion and "cured" homosexuality.

I challenge anyone to produce a story of any person changing sexual preference from gay to straight or transsexual to happy with birth sex, who does not belong to a major religion, which they credit with the change.

I have never read a story or met a person who claimed to be cured, who did not also have some type of religious experience running concurrently. Because of what people will do in the name of their god, I discount these as not being legitimate cases of cured people, but people conforming to religious beliefs because they fear eternal damnation.

Elizabeth

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:46 pm Being homosexual is genuinely a curse. Two men living together are like salt and pepper being together. Like water and oil trying to mix together. It only makes for more and more and more hurts as one tends to take the position of master and the other has to be hurt by being a slave. In all honesty the best thing that society could do would be to eliminate all the homosexuals.

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:46 pm to eliminate all the homosexuals.