Keep it up cheetaking. But yeh you are changing and for the better.

Btw since last week I made the promise to give up white rice and russet potatoes entirely and would you know I'm almost fitting my high school 28-29 waistline jeans. Its literally quite impressive. I can only imagine the changes when I focus on a semi plaeo , low GI grain diet.

and high fruit diet when I get on E.

But yeah while my folks continue to eat that rubbish I gave it up.

Id say if you like your taters then find an alternative such as mini taters or portion control them.(bear in mind however portion control on rice and russet taters didn't work aswell for me. I'm guessing my sugar levels just simply spike whenever i eat them if only a fist of them.)

I switched to quinoa or brown rice instead of white rice whenever I can but the bloody stuff can be expensive.

The good news is my cravings for white rice have gone down the longer ive stayed away from it.

May the schwartz be with you.

How much is the laser for the face going to end up costing when its all done?

You sound and look great, Carrie...Thank gawd for the brevity..hehehe Smooches jackie

Wolf-Pup (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:18 am How much is the laser for the face going to end up costing when its all done?

The first three sessions are going to be $200 each, monthly, and each subsequent session will be $155. It should take somewhere between 6-9 sessions before the obnoxious little itchy protuberances are completely eviscerated, so hypothetically it's going to cost me somewhere between $1065 and $1500 for the full face, depending on how many sessions it takes.

The good thing is that it is a very quick process, usually only taking about 15 minutes or so per session, and unlike electrolysis I don't have to grow the hair out, because the laser only targets the roots. So although it is a bit more expensive, I think the convenience is REALLY worth it. And since I have dark hair and a relatively even skin tone, I'm a pretty good candidate for it.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:38 pm I'm really excited about this.

I've wanted my smooth face back ever since the damned things grew in in the first place when I was 14. I've ALWAYS hated them. And now, in a few months, they really will be

butterflyjack (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:32 am gone... forever!!! And not just itchy post-shave-stubble-all-over gone either... complet

ely smooth! I can't wait!!!

You sound and look great, Carrie...Thank gawd for the brevity..hehehe Smooches jackie

Thanks! And, well, it was brief when I first wrote it... but then I realized that I forgot a couple of things, and added those in, and well, you know... whatever, I should just give up with calling things "quick" or "brief." You should all probably know full well by now what my definition of "brief" is. :p

thats not bad price wise. Its tolerable. I may be able to do that this fall after I get a part time job somewhere. Thanks cheetaking for rough estimates. Ugh......

I hate my facial hair, chest hair and secondary masculine traits.

Be gone!!!! Now you foul hairy stuff. There's no place for you on my body.

Likewise you cheetaking my skin is ridiculously pale(even for a latino they called me milk bread as a child) and facial hair is dark black so dunno I think I stand a very good chance with laser therapy.

On the plus side Ive heard the therapy can induce collagen to fix to a small degree wrinkles in the process

The trade off is it will scar face to an extent....Oh well.....

The price of beauty

(delurk)

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:46 am The first three sessions are going to be $200 each, monthly, and each subsequent session will be $155. It should take somewhere between 6-9 sessions before the obnoxious little itchy protuberances are completely eviscerated, so hypothetically it's going to cost me somewhere between $1065 and $1500 for the full face, depending on how many sessions it takes.

Yowza, seriously?! Are you sure that's not way overpriced? Where I am (Netherlands) it's more like 80 euros a treatment, which is something like 105 dollars. That's IPL, done by a professional dermatologist, probably what you're quoted for as well. Also, I've had 6 sessions spread out over a year now, with something like 10 weeks or so in between treatments, done so because of hair growth cycles (you want to get the little f*ckers when they're growing, otherwise the light doesn't kill much).

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YS hated them. And now, in a few months, they really will be gone... forever!!! And not just itchy post-shave-stubble-all-over gone either... completely smooth! I can't wait!!!

Yeah, it's awesome. Even with all the pain, pimples and red spots, it really is worth it (I just came back from my last session, and I'm still coming down from the adrenaline and pain). And if it hurts, know that it'll hurt less next time!

There are cheaper places, but this is one case where I'm a lot less concerned with price and much more concerned with quality. It's going to be a big part of my ability to pass eventually, so I want to make absolute sure that it's done right. There are discount laser places that are a bit cheaper, which have like 6-treatment package deals for $300 or something, but those places had TERRIBLE reviews, with people saying that it didn't work. The place that I am going to is the top of the line, with a new laser system that works even on light-colored hair, and it has 5-star reviews across the board, with people unanimously reporting that they were permanently hair-free after 7 sessions. So in this case, I am gladly willing to spend a bit more if it means getting results. I really trust this place.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:14 pm There are cheaper places, but this is one case where I'm a lot less concerned with price and much more concerned with quality. It's going to be a big part of my ability to pass eventually, so I want to make absolute sure that it's done right. There are discount laser places that are a bit cheaper, which have like 6-treatment package deals for $300 or something, but those places had TERRIBLE reviews, with people saying that it didn't work. The place that I am going to is the top of the line, with a new laser system that works even on light-colored hair, and it has 5-star reviews across the board, with people unanimously reporting that they were permanently hair-free after 7 sessions. So in this case, I am gladly willing to spend a bit more if it means getting results. I really trust this place.

Send me details cheetaking . I want to go to a place where they can remove my facial hair for sure.

Ugh..... 2 more years of staying as this hairy guy guy. I can't stand looking at my face in the mirror.

Well, I'm having yet another pretty awful depressive bout. This has been happening a LOT over the last few weeks, ever since I picked back up my full HRT dose after the first shipment ran out. This seems to be a bit of a weekly cycle... when I first change my E patches, I feel great for a couple of days, and then all of a sudden I start feeling like complete crap, it takes me several days to get over it, and then suddenly my mood will just perk right back up to "amazing!" again. It doesn't follow this cycle perfectly all the time, as there have been many times where I've suddenly been happy near the end of the week for no reason, and a few times where I'm still feeling crappy at the beginning of the week, but I do almost ALWAYS seem to feel awful on Thursday through Saturday, and great on Tuesday and Wednesday. (I change my patches every Sunday.)

So I am REALLY starting to wonder if estrogen patches are the best method of delivery. I chose them because they were the safest, with the lowest risk of liver damage and blood clotting, and they were supposed to deliver a consistent dose over the course of 7 days, but now I am really starting to question whether that is true or not, because it just seems that my moods are constantly up and down, and tend to be better on the days right after I've changed patches. EDIT: Just did some research, and it turns out that heat does indeed cause the patches to release their estrogen MUCH faster. It says to avoid direct sunlight, saunas, and tanning. And since I take blistering-hot showers every morning that last for 15 minutes or more, and occasionally 30 minutes when I'm shaving or playing around with the shower massage, I think I've found my problem. And this would also explain why I felt so great all the time during the first month of this HRT regiment, but so roller-coaster-ridey ever since then... because during the entire first month, I was having to change my patches every 3-4 days because they kept falling off. And as such, I never had them on long enough for the E dose to taper off. Where now, I'm spending 3 or more days every week feeling like total crap because I'm not getting hardly any E into my system.

So, yeah, I'm seriously thinking of switching over from Climara, the estrogen patches, to Estrofem, an oral estrogen which is what just about every single other transsexual in the entire world uses. And since they all seem to report a constant sense of calmness and control, while my emotions have been a complete chaotic roller-coaster ride, I'm thinking that maybe it's because they're getting a consistent daily dose of estrogen while I'm not. I'm getting a lot of E at the beginning of the week and almost none at the end of the week. My brain just can't seem to keep up with the constant changing levels of hormones, and as such just constantly goes back and forth between bliss and complete depression.

Anyway, this won't be lasting much longer either way. I FINALLY got my official appointment set up for informed consent this morning, and that will be on March 19th at 1:30 in the afternoon. So, thank God, I'm finally going to be under official medical supervision instead of going it alone, I'll finally have official lab work to tell me what's really happening with my hormone levels, and I'll finally be able to quit guessing about dosage and effects, and constantly feeling worried and uncertain, and know for sure that I'm doing it the right way. Thank God! This whole month has been completely ridiculous in terms of emotional fluxes.

I think what I'm going to do until that date, is go ahead and order Estrofem, burn through the rest of my E-patches by changing them every 3 days, and then officially switch over once the shipment arrives. Then hopefully after that I'll just be on official medication, and won't have to worry about this crap anymore.

Here's my new recommendation to everyone: do NOT do this DIY like I did. There are serious potentials for complications, serious potential for your mind to be messed up and for you to be left feeling like a deer in the headlights because your mind is so mixed up and you don't know what the hell you're doing, and there's absolutely no way to know if anything's going wrong or not. So please, if you really feel strongly enough about transsexualism to want to take estrogen, just go into an informed-consent clinic and do it the right way. This DIY thing is turning me into a complete knot of stress and uncertainty, and it is NOT fun.

On the other hand, I really don't see the harm in doing a DIY chem-castration trial, for those who are interested. The only mental effects I got from that were a sense of calmness and control, a feeling like there was no hurry, and a complete loss of sexual interest. Those drugs felt very safe, with limited potential for mental harm. They don't screw with your mind at all. Estrogen does. Estrogen takes everything that you thought you knew about how your emotions and your daily sense of "normal" works, and throws them into a washing machine. It can really mess you up if you're not ready for it.

All righty, folks, this is it, I've got my very first laser hair removal treatment just over an hour from now. I'll be reporting back soon! Hopefully it won't hurt too much... I have a bit of a low tolerance for pain.