You can't have a real eunuch story unless the boy is castrated as a child. There are real books published that talk about it, and they would therefore have to be labelled 'minor' I guess. And also, making it some sort of secret password protected thing makes it seem really dirty. Like those disgusting sites that talk about hurting children and then every now and then there's a big bust of 'child porn' There shouldn't be things hurting real childern like photos, but there can be stories.

justjustin (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:47 pm You can't have a real eunuch story unless the boy is castrated as a child. There are real books published that talk about it, and they would therefore have to be labelled 'minor' I guess. And also, making it some sort of secret password protected thing makes it seem really dirty. Like those disgusting sites that talk about hurting children and then every now and then there's a big bust of 'child porn' There shouldn't be things hurting real childern like photos, but there can be stories.

I think the idea of putting the stories behind password protection is more about protecting the EA community than protecting children or because what is there is forbidden. Having them behind a log-in makes the stories inaccessible by internet search. Therefore, the easily offended, and prone to make a fuss idiot is less likely to stumble upon something they don't understand by accident. The EA was brought down by a complaint about a couple of stories. Not ALL the stories. Just a couple.

Someone who didn't understand what they were reading complained. Our host at BME thought the complaint might be more than they wanted to deal with and they unceremoniously pulled the plug on the whole community.

Some overly sensitive person found the stories by accident, and started loudly complaining. This started the whole issue we've been left with.

NOTE: This is how I have come to understand the situation. I was not involved, and I don't know anything for sure, but this seems to be the most accurate info I have. END NOTE.

If we have the stories behind a log-in, then we at least know the people who are going to read the stories know what they are in for. They will be prepared for what lies beyond their username and password. Web crawlers won't be able to read the stories and the stories won't show up as results on random Google searches. Even if they do, they still won't be able to read them unless they sign up with an EA account. This will give us a chance to let people know the context, and if they really want to read the type of story contained there.

Minor themed stories push buttons for sensitive, well meaning people. Because they do not understand the law. Because they do not understand our community. Because they cannot see the allegory and metaphor at play. Because they do not remember history, or understand psychology. For all these reasons, they see a story about a child's castration, and they see deviants and pedophiles plotting against their own children. They react out of fear because they don't understand.

Password protection won't keep out anyone who wants the type of stories held in the Fiction Archive, but it will be an impediment to those who don't understand. They would actually have to sign up and join the community to view them. Some parent with a sick child looking up symptoms couldn't just type child and testicles into Google, click a link and find themselves reading a San Carlos Island story. Without context it would be very disconcerting, and dangerous.

In the previous iteration of the Fiction Archive, there were warnings and explanations at the welcome page, but the welcome page wasn't the only way into the stories. Leaving the stories open, left us open to attack.

I am in the process of making final preparations for attending the MoM.

At the MoM, I plan to present an apparently irrefutable argument in favor of making [qu

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readily accessible to the general public (and especially readily accessible to children/minors), doing so with an apparently irrefutable argument as to why such accessibility is profoundly and irrebuttably in the public safety interest and moreso significantly, in the critical safety interests which are stunningly pertinent to and for minor children.

I began a virtually lifelong effort to unriddle child abuse before I learned to talk. I wrote a doctoral dissertation which describes, to the limit of what I could get my thesis committee to accept, what causes child abuse, the seeming social purpose of child abuse, what plausibly will cure society of its proclivity to abuse children with adamant ignorance of the nature of child abuse and with catastrophically intransigent learned stupidity regarding child abuse and its purpose within a biologically intelligible model of the evolution of creativity as a cosmological phenomenon, and, perhaps more importantly than all those factors, what will lead to effective, economical, and efficient prevention of child abuse.

I find not one whit of evidence to the effect that anyone else actually exists who is, like me, an ordinary, run-of-the-mill person, and who has unriddled child abuse more thoroughly, or in more diligently, or in more depth, or in more detail than my life work and life effort has allowed me to accomplish.

Perhaps it would be wise to remember Cassius Marcellus Clay, Jr, just before he won the title from Sonny Liston, not all that long before Ali openly announced his conversion to Sunni Islam and took upon the name Muhammad Ali. Before his first title fight, Ali described, in goodly detail, how and why he would win the fight, and he did as he had foretold.

I will do my part, to the limit of my practicable ability, to eradicate child abuse from the human condition. As the future has not yet happened (is not the future, by definition, that which has not yet happened?), I have no guarantee that the effort I have been making, am making, and will make will be successful in child abuse eradication.

What I do have is a bioengineering-based, system-dynamics model of child abuse and its plausibly inescapable eradication which I have found impossible to refute, rebut or otherwise find significantly flawed or likely to not prevail, and I have tested this model throughout my whole life since before I learned to talk.

The work I do was described by the research methods expert at the univrsity where I garnered my doctorate as "a completely new paradigm." (Ever diligently study Thomas S. Kuhn, "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" ?)

Another, properly qualified scientist/engineer observed that my work, if not refuted, would "undermine many established views." It is my best grasp of the work I do that the "established views" which my work, if not refuted, will apparently undermine are specifically those views, deeply embedded in the structure of human society which are of the core nature, essence, process and consequences of child abuse.

What, if anything, will I be able to usefully accomplish at the MoM? I will not know until after the MoM.

However, conceding to those aspects of society which drive child abuse is something I cannot abide.

At the MoM, I may learn how I can be of practicable help as a member of the Eunuch Archive. Of course, to be truthful, I need no less to allow that I may, or may not, learn that I belong elsewhere. That is not for me to decide.

What I do know is that I have never been able to comply with or conform to the divisive societal definitions of "boy," "man," "girl," or "woman.."

I find that I am an ordinary, one-of-a-kind-in-forever valid person.

I am an ordinary person who, in 1986, consciously and willfully decided to not commit suicide by neglect (of cancer risk), through my conforming to the societal standards of mandatory child abuse and the learned standards of child abuse of abused children who become adults who propagate their child abuse unto the next generation, ad infinitum.

(Edit: It seems to me that I would possibly have committed suicide by cancer had I not gotten the orchiectomy and colectomy in 1986, and had I not gotten the duodenal polypectomy in 1990, and were I not continuing to get regular surgical procedures directed toward cancer prevention.)

Thus, I am not dead, and I surmise that I am not dead partly because I wisely became a eunuch in a timely manner.

I cannot be taught to be ashamed of my life.

I am personally thankful for all the posted comments on this thread.

I have a simple way of living. To the limit of my practicable ability, I merely tell the truth.

Can anyone else actually do otherwise?

And I shall soon be off to the MoM.

To bring the suggestion up again:

What about putting all the stories on a torrent and sharing them through the network. Then we can start anew with the web-based system. "Classic" stories could be reuploaded?

What about some stories open generally, and the ones more likely to be complained against open only to members? That's simple enough. People wont find this site without the stories to begin with, I think.

Just to be clear...this thread will be CLOSED after MOM right??

Aw Gee....

Closed? Maybe...

We have to get down to work this weekend and figure out what we're going to do with the story issue.

Rest assured, there will be news when we figure something out.

I am newly registered here but I have been coming to this site for years just to read the stories and very little else. I would really encourage you to let the stories live - and if people do not want to read a certain type of story, then they should by all means NOT read it. Personally, I am not at into young stuff so I just do not read it. I read what I choose to read because it is of a subject matter that i enjoy - and neither I or anyone else HAS to read EVERY story. I visit ASSTR regularly and they have a rating system for their stories - if it says or implies under aged characters, I simply ignore it. If I open a story and suddenly I come face to face with under aged characters, I close it. But I do not feel that it is my place to rant about someone else's passions or interests as long as they are not harmng anyone. I like swinging, D/s and kink theme, tranny, bi and even some gay stories - not everone does - but it is what I like and what I choose to read and that is MY choice to make - not someone else's. So PLEASE, bring the stories back.. don't make us all suffer because there are few whiners out there. Let's learn from our mistakes and move on and get back to the business at hand.. Just my opinion..

blackrose51 (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 19, 2011 8:01 am I am newly registered here but I have been coming to this site for years just to read the stories and very little else. I would really encourage you to let the stories live - and if people do not want to read a certain type of story, then they should by all means NOT read it. Personally, I am not at into young stuff so I just do not read it. I read what I choose to read because it is of a subject matter that i enjoy - and neither I or anyone else HAS to read EVERY story. I visit ASSTR regularly and they have a rating system for their stories - if it says or implies under aged characters, I simply ignore it. If I open a story and suddenly I come face to face with under aged characters, I close it. But I do not feel that it is my place to rant about someone else's passions or interests as long as they are not harmng anyone. I like swinging, D/s and kink theme, tranny, bi and even some gay stories - not everone does - but it is what I like and what I choose to read and that is MY choice to make - not someone else's. So PLEASE, bring the stories back.. don't make us all suffer because there are few whiners out there. Let's learn from our mistakes and move on and get back to the business at hand.. Just my opinion..

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I agree with what was said by blackrose51, as I said, people can CHOOSE to read, besides the derecho a to free expression is guaranteed, unless there are graphic images you do not think the case PAOLO.

all this because it was exactly the reason for the closure of the stories and what is the fear of relocating, do not quite understand that. On the other hand if there are many host in the world outside the U.S. would accept the historical with no problem because if those passes are permitted. but I see it impractical in USA these stories are perimiter by law if you do not look how many books on subjects even worse than castration of children are in the libraries of the USA.