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Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:57 pm
by Abiah (imported)
13 days since the first shots and 7 days since the second lot. I think it has worked. Pain has pretty much completely subsided. Still very swollen but feels as though they are dead material like they might as well be stones. Blood test results came back showing 0.86 nmol/L of testosterone. I can't say 100% whether this is due to the calcium chloride or spironolactone but I'm pretty sure spironolactone alone wouldn't cause such a low testosterone level. If it is the calcium chloride and I'm pretty sure it has to be, then it obviously takes effect quite quickly. Undecided as to whether to do another shot, maybe will in another 2 weeks or so. Maybe it will be easier to do multiple shots during this phase rather than wait until things have started to atrophy.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:08 pm
by twilight2000 (imported)
On December 30th I injected 2ml of 33% calcium chloride solution, 1ml each about twenty minutes apart equally into each teste. I would have done it all at once, but I had a "full" feeling and discomfort after the first ml.

First I washed the area with soap and water, and then again with hebiclens. I used half inch, 30 gauge diabetic needles. The calcium chloride solution was kind of thick - it took some time to fill the syringe when I pulled the plunger. I then held the teste to the side of the scrotum and injected about .2ml at a time. The needles went in easy enough: I just kept on increasing the pressure until it slid in. The scrotum skin provided a lot more resistance than the teste wall. I tried to inject through the entire teste: three "sides" and the "top" and "bottom."

The first ml was easy, the second ml was a lot more troublesome. My scrotum and testes seemed to be "clenching" or pulsing in a way, moving them around even though I was holding them still.

The pain appeared after forty-five minutes. It quickly reached 9/10: intense pain near my prostate, and all I could do is moan in agony. I was barely aware of my surroundings. I took an aleve. The pain subsided to a 6/10 over the next two hours as long as I didn't move much. Moving injection site amplified the pain back up to 9/10 if I walked around a bit.

It would be impossible for me to have done this process with people around without them noticing my discomfort. While the pain was extreme, I kept telling myself that becoming the person I want to be is worth the pain. Anything worth attaining has a cost.

I was able to sleep in the fetal position. I woke up a few times and felt an urge to urinate. I couldn't really feel my bladder over the intense pain, so maybe I was just peeing out of worry. It took a while to find the right position to fall back asleep each time.

On the morning after, the pain was about a 2/10 with aleve as long as I am sitting still. My right teste had little feeling, but my left pulsed in pain every so often. Both were tender and swollen.

Pain has completely subsided at this point, a week in. I believe I am experiencing the mental effects already.

Very difficult to climax -- took a long time and very exaggerated features to complete. Did it three times since the procedure -- output is dribbly instead of shooting.

Don't feel overwhelming interest in women's features (I am straight, by the way). Male bodies were invisible to me, now I seem able to observe them. With both sexes, I can find them attractive but it is in an artistic/intellectual sense now. There is no sexual desire except for when I force it.

Was quite compulsive in the past with food and spending, both are suppressed with ease. Appetite is much less. Not feeling hostile towards people's actions. Normally when commuting in the city I pick up many slights and get annoyed after a while. Just could not care, instead I am feeling very centered and present.

Consequently, I feel like I am being nicer to people. Not that I necessarily like or trust them more, more like I hate talking to them less. I feel like I have slightly better understanding of their words, instead of feeling disinterested.

Not feeling paranoid, worried about the future, or stressed in any way. Just feeling very ok with everything. On a bad note, I'm noticing that I am slightly forgetful of things I need to do. I used to always remember things around the time I needed for them to happen, now I am starting to work off of lists.

I'm feeling pretty good about this process, and am especially grateful for everyone's experience in this thread.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:29 am
by nutless1 (imported)
Happy Birthday Twilight2000! How are things proceeding with your castration process since your injections?
twilight2000 (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 07, 2017 7:08 pm On December 30th I injected 2ml of 33% calcium chloride solution, 1ml each about twenty minutes apart equally into each teste. I would have done it all at once, but I had a "full" feeling and discomfort after the first ml.

First I washed the area with soap and water, and then again with hebiclens. I used half inch, 30 gauge diabetic needles. The calcium chloride solution was kind of thick - it took some time to fill the syringe when I pulled the plunger. I then held the teste to the side of the scrotum and injected about .2ml at a time. The needles went in easy enough: I just kept on increasing the pressure until it slid in. The scrotum skin provided a lot more resistance than the teste wall. I tried to inject through the entire teste: three "sides" and the "top" and "bottom."

The first ml was easy, the second ml was a lot more troublesome. My scrotum and testes seemed to be "clenching" or pulsing in a way, moving them around even though I was holding them still.

The pain appeared after forty-five minutes. It quickly reached 9/10: intense pain near my prostate, and all I could do is moan in agony. I was barely aware of my surroundings. I took an aleve. The pain subsided to a 6/10 over the next two hours as long as I didn't move much. Moving injection site amplified the pain back up to 9/10 if I walked around a bit.

It would be impossible for me to have done this process with people around without them noticing my discomfort. While the pain was extreme, I kept telling myself that becoming the person I want to be is worth the pain. Anything worth attaining has a cost.

I was able to sleep in the fetal position. I woke up a few times and felt an urge to urinate. I couldn't really feel my bladder over the intense pain, so maybe I was just peeing out of worry. It took a while to find the right position to fall back asleep each time.

On the morning after, the pain was about a 2/10 with aleve as long as I am sitting still. My right teste had little feeling, but my left pulsed in pain every so often. Both were tender and swollen.

Pain has completely subsided at this point, a week in. I believe I am experiencing the mental effects already.

Very difficult to climax -- took a long time and very exaggerated features to complete. Did it three times since the procedure -- output is dribbly instead of shooting.

Don't feel overwhelming interest in women's features (I am straight, by the way). Male bodies were invisible to me, now I seem able to observe them. With both sexes, I can find them attractive but it is in an artistic/intellectual sense now. There is no sexual desire except for when I force it.

Was quite compulsive in the past with food and spending, both are suppressed with ease. Appetite is much less. Not feeling hostile towards people's actions. Normally when commuting in the city I pick up many slights and get annoyed after a while. Just could not care, instead I am feeling very centered and present.

Consequently, I feel like I am being nicer to people. Not that I necessarily like or trust them more, more like I hate talking to them less. I feel like I have slightly better understanding of their words, instead of feeling disinterested.

Not feeling paranoid, worried about the future, or stressed in any way. Just feeling very ok with everything. On a bad note, I'm noticing that I am slightly forgetful of things I need to do. I used to always remember things around the time I needed for them to happen, now I am starting to work off of lists.

I'm feeling pretty good about this process, and am especially grateful for everyone's experience in this thread.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:42 am
by twilight2000 (imported)
nutless1 (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2017 6:29 am Happy Birthday Twilight2000! How are things proceeding with your castration process since your injections?

Hi! Thanks! They're about normal size but much less sensitive now. They sensation in them is almost "hollow" in a way. No pain or discomfort throughout the day. Most of the pain stopped by day 3 and discomfort by day 5. I'm sleeping, sitting, and walking normally now.

I'm pretty sure they're dying off. I'm going to wait a month or so before making a doctor's appointment. Removal isn't necessary for me (though it would be perfectly fine). I'd be satisfied with them completely or significantly dead.

I felt a sense of regret a couple of times. Like maybe I was too hasty, maybe I made the wrong decision. But I realized my framing is off: my mental state now is much calmer and free now, moreso each day, and I would not have gotten here unless I did the injections.

It's just a bit hard saying "goodbye" is all.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:59 am
by nutless1 (imported)
Pleased you are doing well as you proceed. It sounds very familiar.

Medical follow-up is important, as the damaged testicle could develop a mass that may or may not become cancerous, and you would not want to have it spread beyond the testiclw, if it were to be cancerous.

My urologist has removed one with a mass that showed up on two ultrasounds, and is closely monitoring the other as follow-up to surgery.

As pointed out so frequently on here, doctors are reluctant to remove any body part that shows some life or possible survival chance. My testosterone was at 73 on a lab normal range of 130 - 750, and the 73 number played a role in the doctor not wanting to remove both testicles during one surgery. Ten days after surgery my testosterone dropped to 52. Next follow-up is in five weeks.

Are you exhibiting any hot flashes or night sweats?
twilight2000 (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:42 am Hi! Thanks! They're about normal size but much less sensitive now. They sensation in them is almost "hollow" in a way. No pain or discomfort throughout the day. Most of the pain stopped by day 3 and discomfort by day 5. I'm sleeping, sitting, and walking normally now.

I'm pretty sure they're dying off. I'm going to wait a month or so before making a doctor's appointment. Removal isn't necessary for me (though it would be perfectly fine). I'd be satisfied with them completely or significantly dead.

I felt a sense of regret a couple of times. Like maybe I was too hasty, maybe I made the wrong decision. But I realized my framing is off: my mental state now is much calmer and free now, moreso each day, and I would not have gotten here unless I did the injections.

It's just a bit hard saying "goodbye" is all.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:59 pm
by tgcargirl (imported)
1666 post about 3 weeks reading for me

a lot of great info.

i think its missing 1 thing that if the poster would put in a little of there info i think that would help others with what to expect. Like age, weight, hormone and anti androgen use testicle size is in most post witch helps. that way thy can compare apples to apples oranges to oranges

like me im 55 MTF and have been on HRT for the last 15 years. i don't think it would take the same as a 20 old with no meds

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 4:10 pm
by fhunter
tgcargirl (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:59 pm 1666 post about 3 weeks reading for me

a lot of great info.

i think its missing 1 thing that if the poster would put in a little of there info i think that would help others with what to expect. Like age, weight, hormone and anti androgen use testicle size is in most post witch helps. that way thy can compare apples to apples oranges to oranges

like me im 55 MTF and have been on HRT for the last 15 years. i don't think it would take the same as a 20 old with no meds
There was reference to testicular volume vs needed CaCl2 volume + clarifications on how to do and what/how to use, somewhere around the pages 80-90 or close to that. Also there were references to the original papers that started that thread.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2017 7:10 pm
by twilight2000 (imported)
nutless1 (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 09, 2017 3:59 am Are you exhibiting any hot flashes or night sweats?

Nothing like that yet. Some fatigue and apathy, but I sometimes I feel that way when I'm sick. And it is Winter time. So it's hard to say if that's to be attributed to the injections.

I will definitely follow up with my urologist. As far as I recall from reading this thread, the effects are gradual. I definitely think the injections "shocked" them at the least into producing a lot less T.

The most interesting thing to me that I feel so much less impulsive. Impulses I've struggled with for years are effortless now. I want to say most of my mental effects are placebo, but this is starkly different. There's no motivation, no "white fog" -- I just feel so much more deliberate.

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:07 pm
by rusty crown (imported)
Hello everyone! is it possible to have night sweats and a boner at the same time? The sweating doesn't make sense since its a cold weather - 0 °C (32 °F) - I would wake up in the middle of the night literally wet yet i wake up in the morning with an erection. Does the morning woods have any other possible explanation besides normal t levels? does the night sweats have?

Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:16 pm
by Paolo
Night sweats are not necessarily indicative of low T/hot flashes. You could also be coming down with something. It's also possible to sweating profusely and still freezing and shivering when you are or are getting sick. This past month (and I'm still not right) I've done off and on battle with some kind of stomach bug that hit here over Christmas. I did in fact wake up in a sweat, shaking, with an erection on Tuesday night after Christmas, I think it was. The erection scared the hell out of me!