Abiah (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:40 am Thought Id update that the pain has really set in over the last 24 hours. Have been considering a trip to the hospital but of course its not that simple. What would you say happened?

Honestly most people who do the injection get to the point where the pain seems unbearable and inescapable. The good news is that after three to four days the pain will suddenly disappear. I know it is hard to handle but unless the pain has lasted more than four full days I suggest waiting it out. P

Also, as anyone who had orchialgia (chronic pain in the testicles), doctors typically can't/won't do anything for it. Regular general pain killers aren't really enough and getting surgical treatment for the pain usually takes years of begging the doctors for relief.

If you're having actual ulceration or infection, of course go to the hospital though. Otherwise hang in there!

Pain has been in lower abdomen. Not sure if that means the calcium chloride has migrated there but I guess maybe logically it could do. Was pretty sick with it yesterday but I think some of that was paracetamol overdose. A little better today. Just wanted to share that there is a lot of pain involved in case anyone was thinking about this as being an easy option. I guess like with anything worth obtaining in life there is a price to pay. Was a bit worried about what sort of damage the calcium chloride might do wherever else it finds its way to if that's what has happened. It does seem better today though, still sore but bearable. thanks for the support and advice

The pain can be very strong in abdomen and also back! The eventual reward is worth it! Subsequent injections were no where as bad as the first at least for myself!

The innervation to your testicles is directly into your lower abdomen.

Point being, your 'kick in the balls' is going to hurt in your gut for a few days.

Weather it and let your balls be done.

R.Honour

Based on my personal experience following injection, the discomfort lasted a few days and the swelled testicles began to shrink and lose the discomfort, and with time became smaller than usual and without feeling. The discomfort did travel up the cord into the abdomen, like being struck in the balls as another suggested. I also agree absent any visible damage beyond enlargement, that waiting out the discomfort is reasonable. As it is said in so many areas of life, for the serious seeker of gain, the saying "No pain, no gain" applys to achieving becoming a eunuch. I am nearly there as planned, and the pain and gain will have been worth it! For the serious have a plan and work the plan believing it is achievable, and it is certainly with perservance.

OK Makes sense. I have been wondering about the probability of this having worked. And whether to do it again now to avoid inconvenience of this kind of pain later on.

OK I have read more of the thread now just been working through it at a bit at a time. I'm thinking of doing a second dose. First does was about 1.3 to 1.5cc all at centres. Using 30% food grade. Thinking about a further .5 to .7cc to bring total injected up to 2cc. And distribute it more by doing the injection at the same time as retracting the needle. At the moment I think it is maybe 5 days since the first injection. Swelling is at about 2 to 3 times normal size and still very sensitive but pain has diminished. Any thoughts as to whether I could do my next injection now or should I wait until the swelling has reduced?

Abiah (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:09 pm OK I have read more of the thread now just been working through it at a bit at a time. I'm thinking of doing a second dose. First does was about 1.3 to 1.5cc all at centres. Using 30% food grade. Thinking about a further .5 to .7cc to bring total injected up to 2cc. And distribute it more by doing the injection at the same time as retracting the needle. At the moment I think it is maybe 5 days since the first injection. Swelling is at about 2 to 3 times normal size and still very sensitive but pain has diminished. Any thoughts as to whether I could do my next injection now or should I wait until the swelling has reduced?

You'll want to wait a few weeks between injections. Make sure all swelling is gone and they are either normal size or smaller before injecting again. CaCL is a slow process but it worked for me.

I agree wait so you can tell what has happened and where you need to inject.

Males sense to wait that's kind of what I was thinking; although from what I'm reading it looks like the results and success probability are a factor of quantity of calcium delivered? What is the benefit of waiting and is there any medical reason not to wait e.g. does the swelling increase risk maybe of migration? Or could it actually be a benefit due to kind of being a bigger target area and easier for me effect distribution? I kind of want to achieve certainty and results in the shortest possible time as at the moment Im taking a high dose of spironolactone which I want to come off of as soon as I can. I also want a situation of just in case this does end up being a hospitalised situation, that there is clearly zero chance of a doctor repairing or saving either one and that being clearly evident or demonstrable either by physical assessment or if I tell them what I have done. I'm thinking maybe tomorrow. Only because today is Christmas day and there's nowhere to buy vodka on Christmas day. Given the time of year its kind of convenient to overcome this now whatever it takes and whatever consequences it might bring as there is a bit of holiday time to work through any consequences whereas if its a lingering ongoing thing disturbing the rest of the year it causes other practical life problems. Also people have noticed Im out of action and not well, it is not so awkward to just extend a period of unwellness now, but if I have regular things like this then it becomes more of thing people will start to question plus it will get in the way of different sports and fitness things in the new year. So unless there's a medical reason why not to go ahead with second injections now, I'm thinking may as well finish this. Really needing to get testosterone levels to near zero reliably and quickly so I can wean off of spironolactone which is something I need to do before it causes too much health problems.