Did my second injection of 151 proof EA today, and I'm wondering if the right is already severly damaged because it is significantly smaller than the left, it was very hard to get the needle into it, and I wasn't able to inject more than .5ml before no more could be injected. The pain on the left was a bit lass than the last time, but it was still painful.

Gabby,

It sounds as though you're just about castrated. You'll be a eunuch soon, congrats! Go to your doctor and get checked out.

Pirlouit,

Fatigue and being tired is another result of castration. It'll take time for your body to adjust to the new you, but it's a symptom of being castrated. You need to go to your doctor and get checked out too. Don't wait, just do it and you'll be glad you did, especially if they tell you that your testicles have atrophied

Hash (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:57 am and that you're effectively castrated.

Then you can have them removed and start a low dose regimen of testosterone to keep your energy up.

From all I have learned, fatigue and being tired are quite common results of castration; they are, as my life informs me, not always results of castration. My physical energy levels, my ability to do physically demanding work for hours a day for weeks at a time has not diminished in any way I have been able to notice other than what is typical of "getting old."

In the past month, I put in some very strenuous days, one lasting over 14 hours, doing strenuous work, upgrading a challenging electrical service (okay, my official, state-issued credentials include "master electrician"). Something seems to be worth doing and I understand how to do it, and, knowing sadly well that "feelings are not facts," simply "command my muscles" to do what is needed, and, my muscles obey the commands of my brain, and, if I feel fatigued, I pause for a few seconds, allow lactic acid dehydrogenase to do its thing, and resume "commanding my muscles." To do something I that seems worth doing, I simply do it, according to my observable ability.

No two people are the same, no two electrons are the same (yes, all electrons have the same measurable mass and charge -- but no two electrons have the identical wave function from time equals minus-infinity to time equals plus-infinity; because the wave functions of every electron differs from the wave function of every other electron, no two electrons are actually the same.

So, I decline the societal invitation to judge my worth as a person through comparing my life with the lives of other people. Why so? Because I have incessantly noted that no two of anything are the same unless there is only one of the two anythings. Why do I comment on this thread when I got my castration by persuading a doctor to do the deed? Because my background in biology (formidable) was marginally sufficient in terms of doctor persuasion, and, in the absence of doctors who understand well the entire gender-sexuality spectrum of human diversity, it is my understanding that there are quite a few people for whom testicle alcohol injection is the only feasible way of getting body and mind to work well together.

What about "real-life experience"? Well, I vividly remember my life before testosterone began to interfere with my ability to function productively, and I vividly remember the effort it took to remain at all decently productive while living enmeshed in what was, for me if for no one else ever, "testosterone brain fog." And I vividly remember nothing of consequence happening after my orchiectomy other than "testosterone brain fog" fading away over a couple weeks, and my becoming vastly more usefully productive than I was while under the spell of what was, for about 35 years, quality-of-life-impairing "testosterone brain fog."

The benefit of that brain fog was my being willing to get married, to adopt (with my wife) a son (whose life experiences, and tragic death, profoundly helped me grasp the nature of life for people I have come to think of as seriously-to-profoundly "autism-deficient"), to start, with my wife, a daughter from gametes, and, partly through marriage and children, to learn much of possible value about the magnificent beauty of human biological diversity.

While what happens in a givens sort of situation may be very similar for "most people," I have yet to meet even one "most people."

There is, in the field of autism research, the notion of "theory of mind," which I understand is a theory of how one person can supposedly know the intentions of another person without the another person telling the one person of the another person's intentions. For myself, I categorically reject "theory of mind' notions, perhaps for the simple reason that I have no need of a theory of mind because I have a real, working, actual mind instead. Had I ever come to believe that, in any useful way, all people, myself included, are the same, I surely would have desperate need of some sort of theory of mind as a way of concealing from myself my actual valid uniqueness.

Someone not at exceptionally high risk of genetically-driven cancer may very well benefit from low levels, moderate levels, or even high levels of medically prescribed testosterone, and I have no objection to such.

I seem to recall a contest for Dilbert comic strip type real-world managers. I seem to recall one contest entry in which a manager demanded a specific list of the unforeseeable problems which would be encountered during a proposed project. Oops?

Gabby,

Hash (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:35 am It sounds as though you're just about castrat

Hash (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:38 am ed. You'll be a eunuch soon, congra

ts! Go to your doctor and get checked out.

I actually went to the ER last night because of severe pain, and found out that I have a bit of epididymitis.

Thanks Hash for your encouragement.

My fear is that my testes could always recover. I fact, they are atrophied since a few months, but I always have nocturnal erections. No more need for sex, no sexual thoughts, as you described earlier, and my partner and I are very happy of that. I know there's always a production of T from adrenal glands, and that no one is similar. May be mine is higher than average?

I don't want my doctor to have a doubt or a suspicion, because I already told her that my libido was low, that it was harder to get hard and that I had a little gynecomastia. She did a blood test, my T was in the low range, but still "normal". She also sent me to scan my breast. Nothing really abnormal was found. That was in june. Isn't it too quick to go and ask another T level?

I know my energy is low because my T level is low, so I took B vitamins, and it helps a lot. My wish is to take a minimal dose of hormones so that I won't have problems with my bones density.

Many informations, but all is new to me and I must deal with that. Anyway, thanks for all your advices and experiments.

Hi all me again sorry if you are getting fed up with me but Im new and need help I did my third injection of 2ml 40% vodka yesturday in to each nut over 12 days in total, it hurt like hell I even got back pains but today they feel fine just a little tender if you sqeeze them a bit. So how many day between should I wait can I do it again after a couple of days or will it be to soon for any damage to have been done from the last time? As i've read because I can only get my hand on vodka its going to take around 35 injections so the quicker I can take them the better.

Thanks for all your help and I prommise not to keep posting, I just need a bit of help.

Much belated update. Apologies to those who have been following my posts, and thanks to those who have IM'd me.

So yes, I did complete the fourth injection on Rightey two days after my injection on my left (which was done on 16-Nov). When I did my right, I felt noticable discomfort with every push of the plunger, but after a minute or so, it would subside. Took quite a while to get the entire 1 cc injected.

Two weeks later, on Dec. 2, I injected both R and L. Did R first, and easily managed to get in 1 cc with virtually no discomfort during or after. L was different though - felt a fair bit of resistance pushing the needle in (never had that before), and then experienced noticable discomfort after I had pushed in about .3 cc. I continued to go very slowly, closely "listening" for any additional discomfort. Carried on until I had 0.6 cc injected. Although it hadn't gotten any worse, I didn't want to push my luck, so I stopped. That testicle remained quite tender for several days after - not painful, but tender to the touch.

Since my right testicle seems to be the most resilient, I injected again today, but only managed to get 0.7 cc in. Experienced a fair amount of discomfort, so decided to stop. Now, ~45 minutes later, it's still quite uncomfortable; even what I'd describe as mild pain.

One of the things that's making it difficult, which may be contributing to the greater discomfort during some of the injections. is that my testicles are slightly smallish to start with. This makes it difficult to get the needle in where I want it. Today, I was making slight adjustments with the needle (i.e. pulled it back out slightly, maybe 2 mm) after I started.

Overall, I haven't really started to experience any significant effects of low-T yet. Libido is still up there; however my mood has been slightly better in that my temper isn't as quick as it used to be. In the last 3 weeks, I've also switched my work around some, and have been more tired, but I think it's more from my work than low-T.

Well, would like to provide more info, but am very time limited these days. Cheers,

mike

MikeInAB (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 17, 2011 7:00 pm Today I completed my fourth injection on my left testicle (only). I set out to do both R and L, but after doing my left my scrotum tightened up, and made it about impossible to do the right one. Not sure if it was the room temperature (it's cold where I live), or what, but needless to say, I had to put off doing Rightey until tomorrow.

Today's injection went better than all previous ones. I sat down this time, and, like last time, used a ribbon to tie the testicle off to free up both hands. Injected in a different spot than previous injections. Had no problems getting the needle in, and because I was sitting down, was really able to take my time injecting, moving only a couple tick marks (each tick on my 1 cc syringes is 0.01 cc) at a time. There was very little discomfort during the injection, and mild discomfort afterwards. The testicle is fairly tender to the touch now though, but the epididimus (sp?) is not tender at all. Had a small droplet of blood after I removed the needle.

Unless anyone strongly objects, I'll continue posting my experiences with this to add to this (excellent) body of knowledge.

Can someone help me. I did my first injection a few days ago using something i now know to be pretty dumb.... rubbing alcohol, the pain lasted a couple of days and it was intense at time, unable to walk.I did notice in the few daysmy skin was so soft it was very nice to touch. I have done alot of reading and the idea of going in for a second injection makes me very nervous and the images in my head put me off,it was painfull and allmost paralysed my legs with pain, i have a very high threshold for pain so im put off but........

I read somewhere saline can be used? luck has it i found in my dads medicine box needles, saline solution, no sting barrier film, and sterile wipes. How effective is saline compared to say everclear alcohol? i have everything i need just need toknow if this is good to go? oh lucky for me i have one testical i lost the other to torsion as a teenager:)

As we have stated time and time and time again, rubbing alcohol or anything other than DRINKABLE alcohol is highly toxic.

You're lucky you're not blind or dead.

As a general rule, that we still don't officially endorse, if you can't drink it in a glass in a mix or on the rocks, or right out the bottle, DON'T INJECT IT into yourself!