UPDATE:

Hi guys,

I'm beginning to experience a strange mental phenomenon. Being a straight guy, I would NEVER entertain the thought of touching a man and things like that. You know...?? Well, I've been castrated for a number off years now, and though I still adore females as my sexual preference (orientation), I'm beginning to look differently at men. I cannot describe it really. It's not a sexual feeling (lust, desire). I can actually see the beauty of a man.

The other thing is, I could never understand women in the past. I never knew what the feel sexually and emotionally. I never understood WHAT they see in a man. But, lately, it's like I have those feelings. I understand much more now how they feel towards a man. Once I had a penis and felt what a man wants, but now, with the penis gone, my urethra and pee-hole area feels more like, at times, like a clitoris that's being stimulated. Doesn't matter how hard I try to imagine or remember my penis, I can't. I feel this 'clit' sensation. Women must really experience WONDERFUL sexual pleasures.

Contemplating on this, I came to a 'conclusion'. Being ASEXUAL in my inner being, combine with the lack of testosterone AND having no sexual organs, brings out more of the female part of me. I TRULY don't feel attracted to men sexually (not yet at least), but it's like I appreciate both sexes equally. I understand much more now what both need in each other and what they see in each other's bodies.

It could be that a person is created both sexes a birth but the one becomes dormant while the other one becomes dominant. Lots of people's sexual orientation are situated somewhere between these two. I guess that bisexual people must be in exactly in the center of the scale between the two sexes. I also think that if the dominant sex is removed, the dormant one will come to being. I don't know, just a thought. Comes to me, I want to endeavor to remove both (lusts and desires), if possible.

Another thought came to mind. In order for God to create man and female, He MUST understand how both sexes feel. He had to 'program' a man to look a certain way at woman and desire her, and visa versa. I reckon, God being 'asexual' (not having a sex per say) is not bound by only ONE sexual paradigm but is able to know BOTH. One could perhaps say that God IS both male and female. Perhaps it's the same with ME and other true asexual persons.

I don't desire either man or woman anymore, but appreciate what both sexes see in each other. It's like I am both. Weird hey....????

Does anyone else feel the same?

Greetings

Long before I began cyproterone/Androcur and Estrogen, I always said I could have been bisexual, it was simply the right situation with the right person never presented itself. After 2.5 years of HRT, I can definitely feel what women must feel when they desire sex from a man, even though I still describe myself as a lesbian. It's very much the same desire I had before HRT, only much more intense.

Caith721 (imported) wrote: Mon May 30, 2011 10:26 am Long before I began cyproterone/Androcur and Estrogen, I always said I could have been bisexual, it was simply the right situation with the right person never presented itself. After 2.5 years of HRT, I can definitely feel what women must feel when they desire sex from a man, even though I still describe myself as a lesbian. It's very much the same desire I had before HRT, only much more intense.

So...changing male or female hormones (or lack of it) can change one's sexual preference? In other words, can stopping 'T' and/or taking estrogen change me into a woman physically and mentally (becoming a woman), or is it just my female side that is moving more to the foreground?

Caith721 (imported) wrote: Mon May 30, 2011 10:26 am I can definitely feel what women must feel when they desire sex from a man

Is this a physical or mental feeling...or both?

I've read quite a lot about MtF and FtM transsexuals, I don't believe that hormones alone are what make you male or female. There's a gender test that one can take to determine their sex, though perhaps, as in your case, if a man's genitals are removed, your body might start rewiring itself or maybe your mind begins to change it's desires. I would say, however, that if you started to use "estrogen" versus "testosterone" you'd become more like a woman mentally and of course physically.

http://www.transsexual.org/

http://www.transsexual.org/TEST0.html

YodaNell (imported) wrote: Mon May 30, 2011 10:57 am So...changing male or female hormones (or lack of it) can change one's sexual preference? In other words, can stopping 'T' and/or taking estrogen change me into a woman physically and mentally (becoming a woman), or is it just my female side that is moving more to the foreground?

I'd say not change, more like shift preference one way or another.

You can not make yourself, what you are not, but you can shift it a bit (or more than a bit).

PS. Hope I make sense, I do not know how to say it properly.

You say it well, fhunter.

I've enjoyed anal pleasure since my late teens, it's always been something I enjoyed very much. I've also always been more submissive in my sexual nature and enjoyed having my nipples pleasured. All of these were natural components of my sexual identity many, many years before I began HRT. As much as I could always appreciate it, since HRT I've experienced it more emotionally and psychologically. These have melded with my long-standing physical enjoyments very easily, as you might understand. Which means I can now appreciate and understand the physical desires even more.

(Somehow, I don't think my spouse would enjoy reading this. Her insecurities would come screaming out.)

The intricateness of sexuality is complex indeed! Can't help wondering...could evolution really be responsible for such highly intelligent design?

Complexity has always been the adversary of evolutionists. Humans, plants, animals are so complex physically & emotionally that it makes evolution harder to accept or believe. I don't believe in evolution for that reason. If evolution was true, then why haven't men been able to evolve bigger penises? Think about the evolutionary theory, man, animals evolve, changing as needed or as wanting in order to adapt to their environment, but what drives or pushes for these changes? Can a lower life form think and reason that they need to evolve into a more complex life form and then by sheer will evolve? What's the motivator for evolving? If we say man has evolved, then why haven't we, why can't we change our sex at will? Why can't we turn into women or turn into men like some lower life forms? Wouldn't this be a logical evolutionary benefit for humanity? Oh, that's the next step in our evolutionary process. I think that having the ability to regrow limbs, arms, legs, penises, would have been one of the most important evolutionary improvements for humans, but we can't regrow limbs.

What's always been difficult about evolution is the simplistic decision that an animal can by sheer will over hundreds of thousands of years, change it's design. "Oh, I guess in order to adapt to this environment, it be better to have claws or feathers or gills, and so the animal begins to evolve with these new features or organs." It's what I call the genie effect, "If I want it, I can attain it, if I just wish long enough for it!" Sorry, I can't buy that and so the only reasonable explanation, especially due to the complexity of creatures, is creation. That's my belief. Yeah, you can damn me and dismiss me as a nut, but evolution has never been proven, it's still an unprovable theory.

Here we go again. In this respect, I will call you a nut. Evolution is one of the BEST PROVEN of all scientific theories. To dismiss Evolution, you might as well dismiss all science and say Everything is as God wills. Of course, if we did, we'd still be back in the Middle Ages somewhere, and we wouldn't be communicating through the Internet. The theory of Relativity has also been proven time and time again. If it weren't true, your GPS device wouldn't work. Quantum theory has been proven. If it weren't true, your computer wouldn't work, but those and everything about science are theories.

That's the way science operates. We form theories and then set about proving them. Evolution has been proven time and time again. It is a better proven theory than is either the theory of Relativity or Quantum theory, because those are only true as far as they go; they can't be reconciled in every respect, whereas the Theory of Evolution has never failed in any respect

Intelligent Design, on the other hand, isn't science. It's a religious concoction that has no place in science at all; but I could also say that about God. To prove to me Intelligent Design is correct, you first have to prove the existence of God, and you can't begin to do that.

Creationism, intelligent design and other such theories have the inconvenience of written Chinese history, and would also have to dramatically increase the speed of light to somehow explain our distances from other stars. Besides creationism is NOT Biblical, it is derived from the beliefs of Martin Luther and the 1650 calculations, of the Archbishop of Armagh, James Ussher