Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:19 pm I think its time to turn of the smileys, its long overdue, they have suffered to much Moi abuse. Next will be color and fonts.

River

River, DEAR

I learned the technique from your bud, A-1.

River A-1

Meanwhile, the light rain continues its' lite wetness while forecast is more wet stuff over the next five hours.

A wet California, oh my.

Moi

Oh Moi

No rain since last upload and although ahead in official rain calendar year, we are low since new year day. Our reservoirs are full and our snow pack is over capacity. Who knows, maybe there will be no arguing between Delta Smelt 's and farmers.

BUT, in the :hearthrobland it is another story. Their rivers, are denied the natural occurrence of flood plains as enrich the soil and add to the water table as the "developers" try to direct nature. So when the dike breaks, major flood. Across from my Irvine condo was a county park

http://www.ocparks.com/masonpark/

that served as a flood plain. One year it did and I put on my rubber boots and followed the path as water barely six inches deep was so forceful. I could nearly touch a great bird such as a Blue Heron until it glided a few yards distant.

I watched with interest a band of showers move across from Texas to Minnesota and on to the Atlantic. Radar dark green, with yellow and red more so in the South as it moved west to east.

Rain! All that flat land piled high with snow and ice. What are they going to do? Flood?

Moi

Next light rain due tonight. Spotted iddy biddy apricots today. Yea!

It will depend on how fast the snow melts, if the melt off is slow over a couple weeks we may be OK, if it turns 60 and melts in a couple days, head for the high ground. My guess it will be somewhere in between, at least a couple towns will get flooded, seams to happen every year, (same towns). This is what happens when you live in the flat part of the country.

Moi, what they call mountains and big trees here we call small hills and shrubs.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:00 pm It will depend on how fast the snow melts, if the melt off is slow over a couple weeks we may be OK, if it turns 60 and melts in a couple days, head for the high ground. My guess it will be somewhere in between, at least a couple towns will get flooded, seams to happen every year, (same towns). This is what happens when you live in the flat part of the country.

Moi, what they call mountains and big trees here we call small hills and shrubs.

River

The Mississippi can get pretty high, over stage in a few areas. The Red, the St. Croix, and the Minnesota rivers are all expected to be way over flood stage, probably one of the highest crests on record for the Red, possibly the Minnesota. Two major bridges in the south Twin Cities are expected to be flooded for at least 6 weeks, meaning 20 -30 mile detours. Fargo / Morhead have each already made a million sand bags each. The snow that is coming in over the next 3 days is expected to be very wet/heavy (anywhere from 6 to 15 inches expected), that don't help - on top of the 75 plus inches on the ghround. Grounds were heavily saturated last Fall, so water absorption will be minimal during the melt. Time to sink or swim.

kristoff wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2011 7:44 pm The Mississippi can get pretty high, over stage in a few areas. The Red, the St. Croix, and the Minnesota rivers are all expected to be way over flood stage, probably one of the highest crests on record for the Red, possibly the Minnesota. Two major bridges in the south Twin Cities are expected to be flooded for at least 6 weeks, meaning 20 -30 mile detours. Fargo / Morhead have each already made a million sand bags each. The snow that is coming in over the next 3 days is expected to be very wet/heavy (anywhere from 6 to 15 inches expected), that don't help - on top of the 75 plus inches on the ghround. Grounds were heavily saturated last Fall, so water absorption will be minimal during the melt. Time to sink or swim.

Do you really think it will be that bad? hmmmm, this should be interesting.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2011 8:30 pm Do you really think it will be that bad? hmmmm, this should be interesting.

River

Yes, I do. The hydrologists are not fun to listen to.

While the Land of A Thousand Lakes becomes one big great lake as good Conservatives and Republicans are against government spending;

the local rich known for being arch conservatives and Republicans and against government spending are seeking whose $ to protect their homes from rising high tides as don't exist because that would favor global warming which they deny.

Yet they are first in line for money, hand outs, while they should be lot accessed for sea wall construction.

Isn't political power a wonderful thing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me ... 4468.story

Among them is Newport Beach, a politically conservative city where a council member once professed to not believe in global warming. Now, the wealthy beach city is considered to be on the forefront of preparing for climate change.

Moi

Uphill from them

Liquid rain as is falling in the :hearthrob land melts snow hastening run off and flood. And there is no uphill worth more then a few feet over miles.

Imagine, a broad, shallow interstate lake.

moi621 (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:16 pm While the Land of A Thousand Lakes becomes one big great lake

That happened a few years ago when the upper midwest flooded. The Satellite pictures of the "water" in the area showed what looked to be a new great lake. It was as large as Superior, just not deep.

I think that this was the flood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1993

Dave (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2011 9:24 pm That happened a few years ago when the upper midwest flooded. The Satellite pictures of the "water" in the area showed what looked to be a new great lake. It was as large as Superior, just not deep.

I think that this was the flood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood_of_1993

Thanks Dave

I have some ranch land just below Sequoia National Park with water rights off the river.

Old timers look at the nearby mountain. If it has snow on it at the end of May, the water supply will be good through the summer. But some years it rains and the snow is melted more quickly. So even if the snow pack was good, the melt time is also a consideration to the development of a Grand :hearthrob land Lake.

I believe the answer is in establishing some planned flood plains as to relieve local river surges and better to have a planned flood then an unplanned one.

Moi

You go back and look at 1993's pictures of Des Moines.

Now that's a flood.

look here: http://www.igsb.uiowa.edu/Browse/flood93/flood93.htm

National Geographic: http://photography.nationalgeographic.c ... image.html

here: http://www.nwrfc.noaa.gov/floods/papers/oh_2/great.htm