Puberty's tough, but I don't think I noticed - too busy masturbating.

The real work of adolescence is learning how to function in adult society, and this is very painful. Children are indulged, and their bad behavior forgiven. Adults need to know the right things to do, and do them. Very tough to learn.

What was hard on me was young manhood, not puberty. When I was 18-25, I felt a duty to function sexually in the ways my peers and the movies told me I should. I experienced this as an insupportable burden. I had no acceptable way to live out my bisexuality (this was the 1960s-1970s), and I was continually humiliated by my inability to join in the courtship behavior of other young men. It was really fear. I didn't think of castration. I thought of suicide. Castration wouldn't have let me off, because no one would know, and unwelcome expectations would still be heaped on me. It's been a lonely and twisted path. Now that I'm 60, my sex drive is much less, and I suppose that works like castration. Being old also is an excuse. Sad, but there it is.

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 29, 2010 10:36 pm Puberty's tough, but I don't think I noticed - too busy masturbating.

The real work of adolescence is learning how to function in adult society, and this is very painful. Children are indulged, and their bad behavior forgiven. Adults need to know the right things to do, and do them. Very tough to learn.

What was hard on me was young manhood, not puberty. When I was 18-25, I felt a duty to function sexually in the ways my peers and the movies told me I should. I experienced this as an insupportable burden. I had no acceptable way to live out my bisexuality (this was the 1960s-1970s), and I was continually humiliated by my inability to join in the courtship behavior of other young men. It was really fear. I didn't think of castration. I thought of suicide. Castration wouldn't have let me off, because no one would know, and unwelcome expectations would still be heaped on me. It's been a lonely and twisted path. Now that I'm 60, my sex drive is much less, and I suppose that works like castration. Being old also is an excuse. Sad, but there it is.

No, you shouldn't think of it as sad. Everyone gets there, and it's nature. It's not a curse getting older. It's a privilege! I agreed that after puberty was just as hard.. I still think so, trying to be an adult now. The ones who should have been (at least threatened with) castration are all those bullies who just cannot seem to let others be, and have to pressure and tease for not acting like an animal like them (fucking "all" the time)! Hehehe;-)

Too bad the bullies rule the world.

I ate at a diner a couple nights ago, and a young man near me was going on about how he couldn't imagine living to 50 and getting all old and wrinkly. He said he might kill himself first. I didn't tell him I was 60, although I did say that on his 50th birthday he wouldn't want to die. It was funny, but he meant it.

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 30, 2010 11:14 am Too bad the bullies rule the world.

I ate at a diner a couple nights ago, and a young man near me was going on about how he couldn't imagine living to 50 and getting all old and wrinkly. He said he might kill himself first. I didn't tell him I was 60, although I did say that on his 50th birthday he wouldn't want to die. It was funny, but he meant it.

Saying such a thing would only result in a huge regret when the time comes. And if he really still feels the same when he eventually turns 50, then you could call his condition a MAJOR ISSUE =P I think most people are comfortable with the age they are at anyway. If you live good when young, you'll live good when older.. If you think you'll stay young forever by yourself, and think you're invincible, and don't give a fuck how you treat your body, mind or heart, you'll later be SHOCKED white-haired =D

If you are old now, you have already been young. And if you are young now, you'll get older too. Honestly, I think there are more qualities to older people than the younger ones. I don't find superficialities like external stuff like skin and hair etc. to be greater "qualities" than morality, wisdom, conscience, you name it.. And btw.: Death is only an illusion anyway! Hehehe! Nothing to fear but fear itself. I believe ghosts are just "leftovers" of those who believed in a physical/material world too much. How can atoms and electrons be physical? They are not. Neither is Earth, nor the Sun. It's the connection/dependency/LOVE between them that makes stuff seem physical. I guess only babies know this, animals too, trees even, and Yeshua (Jesus), old people and me. Hehe! I'll bet no young Justin Bieber is ever gonna tell you this Oh, and the bullies of this world will be bullied with.. when Karma hits them. Too bad! So shape up, everyone of you assholes out there, before it's too late. For your own sake! Yes, everybody is good ENOUGH, and truly worh something.. Your physiological worth is the Love between Light and Sound (which is what atoms/stars and electrons/planets are in their principles/initiations). The Sun and the Earth IS every life here, it's the only two ingredients everything consists of! That's how "God" (this love/dependency) sees everything we do.. Sees with OUR eyes, smell with OUR noses, hears with OUR ears etc. Which is the reason executioners wear hoods to not be registered by Karma, I'd guess. Thinking you can be God yourself is quite a backwards way of dealing with reality, and knowingly thinking so is the purest definition of satanism/Luciferianism. But peace be with us:)

Well said! Great post.

Hi

I'm a new member. Thanks for acceptation to EA. Sorry, for my English. I'm genetic woman and I have no experiences after castration but the topic is interesting for me.

I was in high school and I was a member of the dance studio. Then, I met a eunuch who was castrated before puberty. He was 13 years old. His castration was forced by tumors on both testicles. He told me that within 5 years after his surgery any form of HRT wasn't recommended by medical reasons because he had genetic markers indicating for illness's return. He had visible features as Italian castrates described in books. He was tall and a little bit feminized. His voice has no changed and I can say that it wasn't female voice as mine, for example. He had higher pitch then I have and I can say that he had voice as young boy. I was a pupil of the integration-school where there were "normal" people and handicap. It was embarrassed for us when we saw him dressed as a boy with face of girl and with this voice no male nor female. I changed school due to my parents movement and it was my new school close our home. I admit tha by a long time I was ashamed to say something to him. It was easer for me to help my friends on vehicles then to be closer the eunuch. Of course, we never asked what happed in his life because it was unwritten law in our school - "don't ask because your friend on a vehicle is your friend but not an object of unhealthy curiosity.

The eunuch fascinated me and later we became very good friends. We were at the age 16 when we met. I thought that eunuchs should be like zombie from horrors. My friend was quite different. He was very nice and very lively, maybe too much lively then me. Sometimes he disappeared from school because he was in hospital.

When we were more close then I was more brave to talk more intimate topics. Then he told without inhibition that he was a eunuch. I know how it is difficult to say. I was rather tense hearing it. I asked whom he felt male or female. A reply was - 'I'm in the middle.' and he added something what was strange for me that he didn't regret he became a eunuch because he didn't know life as male. Many opinions about 'mental disease' of such eunuchs base on stories of eunuchs who had problems with mind before castration. He told me that he had never depressions and suicidal thoughts. I saw a movie about castrato who had primary fatal circumcision. My friend was quite different. I think that an young castrato's behavior depend on an individual and personal characteristics.

Later before we became a student's he changed gender formally. In our student's time I shared with him a room. He was very good friend and we have never had even a little quarrel.

Unfortunately, before our graduation he died after a traffic accident. He was ridding a bicycle and he was hit by a car.

How can I describe his body?

He was tall and he had female loins and no breasts. Of course, I saw him under shower and I can say that I'd like to have such smooth body as he had. Below eyes his body was total hairless. He had very beautiful face rather as a child.

I was really fascinated his body and mind too. I think that he was more physically stronger then me because I always was in jitter before examine but he didn't.

I don't know statistic how many boys were castrated before puberty and how looked theirs life after but I'm a follower castration of pre-puberty boys if it is associated with illness, preservation supernatural talent (boys' choir). I'll be always against emasculation of boys because parents want it or if this is associated with sex or if it is caused by unhealthy fantasies. In such cases people want it should be undergone treatment or prisoned.

Again sorry for my English.

I'm an inactive member since a year. Many posts aren't interesting for me. I'm 26 years old eunuch. I was castrated at the age of „castrati choristers”. I don't remember myself as a boy because I had removed both testicles and vas surgically at the age 13. I remember only a fright before surgery. Boys treat male organ as jewelery which leads to shock after castration. So, I wasn't different. My disease caused that I was a long term with contact to hospital. Doctors didn't recommend HRT/T and within 5 years after the surgery I was without hormones but under control of endocrinologist. I was 17 when I begun hormonal therapy. I had many attributes as such 'castrati' usually had. My body has many women's and eunuchoidal features. I'm rather tall (183cm/6ft) with disturbed body proportions. I have “barrel” chest and a little breasts in a style “fried eggs”. Below eyes my body is hairless. I have never had pubic hair. Of course, my voice hasn't changed and remains similar to boyish soprano. At the age 18 I have changed my official sex and I become a woman in documents. I take small doses of female hormones in the sticky patches on the back. My libido is rather very low. I can't say that I regret the loss of masculinity but the life as a eunuch wasn't pleasure. Of course, it was easy visible whom I was because I was different then my contemporaries. I have old friends who don't care my my otherness but a lot of people have stupid smile noticing me as a eunuch. It is easer to have no hand or legs because many people want to help but eunuch is still considered as 'defected male'. I have to point out that I have never had depressions and suicidal thoughts due to T absence in my body.

I joined the EA because two years ago I decided for srs but without the vagina reconstruction. I wanted to know about srs-after-efects. Since August 2009 I am completely “cleared”.

Nice fantasy story, but according to the IP trackers here, you and LB are the same person.

Enough.

I hope this string is not "dead" as I would like to add something. If we lived in a world where there was no social stigma or public disapproval associated with preteen castration than having a boy castrated would be no different from having his touncles removed. If there was not a pregidous of and hatered for eunuchs and transgenders then boys might be neutered for virtually any reason at all.

A boy might asked to be cut just because he felt it would be more comfortable than having to wear a cup for little league baseball or because he didn't like getting hit in the balls. But let's face it, whether we like it or not, someone has to carry balls. Someone has to reproduce or we die out. In other words the stigma about preteen castration might just be a good thing for society. Without it where would we be?

Josh Goodman (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:02 pm I hope this string is not "dead" as I would like to add something. If we lived in a world where there was no social stigma or public disapproval associated with preteen castration than having a boy castrated would be no different from having his touncles removed. If there was not a pregidous of and hatered for eunuchs and transgenders then boys might be neutered for virtually any reason at all.

Even, if eunuchs were as accepted members of society as any other normal members, castration mean a lot of changes, many of them are irrreversible. Thus, decision to get castrated continues to be difficult. especially for preteen boys.

but you never know. In societies where individual rights are not so valued, things might be different.