Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:30 pm
cold spell comming again this week
yep, that's what I herd, it hits here first.
River
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Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:51 pm
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 4:33 am
Re: drought conditions in California...As I understand it, southern California is a desert....It should never have been artificially irrigated in the first place..Then the okies , et al invaded during the depression, now they need extra water...so they import it from inland...They've woven a tangled web..Now they're going to pay (for water)..Jackie
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:30 am
That has been the story in Southern California for 100 years.
A group of business men led by the owner of the LA Times a Republican Paper got the voters to approve the Owens water project, then bought up all the land in the last 30 or so miles.
River
A group of business men led by the owner of the LA Times a Republican Paper got the voters to approve the Owens water project, then bought up all the land in the last 30 or so miles.
River
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:29 pm
A true and accurate history of Mulholland and his cronies would be interesting.
There are so many versions.
My favorite is "they" purchased or assumed control of Los Angeles' water and made it a private enterprise.
Until it wasn't anymore.
That the water delivered by the Owen's Valley was stopped short of L.A. at the San Fernando Valley.
Insiders had bought up that land and knew its' value would go up with "water". It did.
Old L.A. politics was hardly the stuff of angels.
Cooler. Some moisture in the air. The promised return of dry heat did not happen.
And here I watered extra heavy last night.
Moi
There are so many versions.
My favorite is "they" purchased or assumed control of Los Angeles' water and made it a private enterprise.
Until it wasn't anymore.
That the water delivered by the Owen's Valley was stopped short of L.A. at the San Fernando Valley.
Insiders had bought up that land and knew its' value would go up with "water". It did.
Old L.A. politics was hardly the stuff of angels.
Cooler. Some moisture in the air. The promised return of dry heat did not happen.
And here I watered extra heavy last night.
Moi
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:50 pm
moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 21, 2014 6:29 pm A true and accurate history of Mulholland and his cronies would be interesting.
There are so many versions.
My favorite is "they" purchased or assumed control of Los Angeles' water and made it a private enterprise.
Until it wasn't anymore.
That the water delivered by the Owen's Valley was stopped short of L.A. at the San Fernando Valley.
Insiders had bought up that land and knew its' value would go up with "water". It did.
Old L.A. politics was hardly the stuff of angels.
Cooler. Some moisture in the air. The promised return of dry heat did not happen.
And here I watered extra heavy last night.
Moi
Old LA politics was erupt as the least, criminal would be a better way of putting it, so what happened to them you ask? Well Mulholland has a street named in his honor, in my day it was a great place to take a date, it runs along the top of the hill overlooking SFV.
River
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:21 pm
It is the return of the Younger Dryas.
A particularly cold time yet, dry.
No glacier advancement.
Although on the Atlantic coast it appears more precipitational.
Cloudy, about 70F - feels cold and damp.
I raised my thermostat higher than usual to commiserate with those short on propane in the cold.
They keep saying the heat is coming back but, it ain't back.
Old man skin certainly does better with the humidity above the single digits.
Planted 6 dried heads of asparagus, some red potato, brown and white onion all from these nifty starter packs sold at Home Depot.
Also bought three little and one big tomato plant.
Gave one of the little guys to my neighbor but, they haven't done anything.
The big one has a big fruit on it and lots of flowers. Well the good news is they aren't dying.
Moi
A particularly cold time yet, dry.
No glacier advancement.
Although on the Atlantic coast it appears more precipitational.
Cloudy, about 70F - feels cold and damp.
I raised my thermostat higher than usual to commiserate with those short on propane in the cold.
They keep saying the heat is coming back but, it ain't back.
Old man skin certainly does better with the humidity above the single digits.
Planted 6 dried heads of asparagus, some red potato, brown and white onion all from these nifty starter packs sold at Home Depot.
Also bought three little and one big tomato plant.
Gave one of the little guys to my neighbor but, they haven't done anything.
The big one has a big fruit on it and lots of flowers. Well the good news is they aren't dying.
Moi
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:46 pm
2.0F feels like -11 Tomorrow 3F tomorrow night -13 Thursday, departure day, -2 cooling to -10
Pahoa Hi, 69.5F tomorrow 80 tomorrow night 65 Thursday 74
I am glad I am taking my hoody,
River
Pahoa Hi, 69.5F tomorrow 80 tomorrow night 65 Thursday 74
I am glad I am taking my hoody,
River
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:30 pm
>>Here's the scoop on the weather in California.
>>I think that this is part of the most difficult weather systems in the world. It includes the Southern Oscillation that produces what is called La Nina and El Nino. That Southern Oscillation also ties into the Arctic Jet Stream that brings the polar cold into the USA.
>>You see, I have things to take care of very serious matters very important to me and this weather stops me from getting out of the house. The daily shit about Dryas and all that stuff gets old and annoying real fast. Give us a break from the silliness.
>>
>>http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0121/ ... king-ridge
>>
California drought: Scientists puzzled by persistence of blocking 'ridge'
While much of the United States has experienced a weather year with fewer extremes and an easing drought, the record-breaking California drought – the worst since 1895 – is not leaving the region anytime soon, according to climatologists.
The unseasonal balmy but dry weather is the result of an equally unprecedented high pressure ridge lurking offshore and blocking the typical winter storms needed to drop precipitation all along the West Coast.
This ridge has persisted for 13 months and the longer it lingers, the less likely it is to leave, points out climatologist Brian Fuchs, from the National Drought Mitigation Center in Lincoln, Nebraska. This high pressure ridge system is feeding on itself, “creating a sort of perfect environment for perpetuating the dry conditions” it creates, he says.
High-pressure systems are not uncommon, but it is abnormal for them to hang around uninterrupted for so long. “This makes it even harder as winter storms approach for them to break through and change that pattern,” he adds.
This recent dry spell accentuates a continuing background condition of prevailing drought across much of the Southwestern US, notes Christopher Williams, a specialist in US drought conditions and an assistant professor at Clark University’s Graduate School of Geography in Worcester, Mass.
Precipitation is below 20 percent of normal and signs of the drought impact run across the region, including low river flows, low snow packs, low reservoir levels, and out-of-season wildfires.
“Wintertime shortages are particularly worrisome,” adds Mr. Williams via e-mail, “because winter is a key time of year for building up water supplies that carry the West through the rest of the year.” What is worse, he says, “shortfalls extend well beyond the state of California itself, reaching nearly all of the remote regions on which the California water supply network relies, particularly the Colorado River Basin.”
Scientists are uncertain as to why the ridge has stubbornly refused to break down and allow incoming storms to hit land. Climate change may be one of many factors, suggests Mr. Fuchs.
“It’s always difficult to know if a specific disaster or storm is tied to climate change,” he says, but over the course of decades it is possible to see large trends moving in a certain direction. “You can’t really pinpoint one thing, but you can say that over a period of decades there is less snow accumulation and warmer temperatures, and climate change is playing a part in that,” he adds.
On Friday, California Gov. Jerry Brown declared a drought emergency, calling for a 20-percent voluntary conservation effort state-wide.
This is just the beginning, says Doug Parker, director of the California Institute for Water Resources. “We have seen essentially no rain or snowfall this year and short- and long-term forecasts are bleak for California,” says Mr. Parker via e-mail, adding that this means that California will have very low water deliveries to much of its agricultural sector.
This agriculture is an important part of the state’s economy, points out Parker. “This will lead to fallowing of farmland which will reduce output and reduce employment,” he suggests, adding that could drive up the prices of certain commodities. In addition, the dairy and meat sectors will be particularly hard hit, he notes, as those sectors will have to import feed.
The drought throughout the West will impact other states similarly, points out Parker.
The drought will increase pressure on already over-used groundwater supplies, says Parker. “We have seen dropping groundwater levels in many parts of the state. We expect growers to increase use of groundwater, especially for tree and vine crops. This will accelerate the decline in groundwater,” he adds.
Little currently on the horizon offers much hope for change, says California climatologist Mike Anderson, with the Department of Water Resources.
This offshore ridge is very stable, he says, adding, “this is good news if you want nice weather, but if you want precipitation it is not.”
>>I think that this is part of the most difficult weather systems in the world. It includes the Southern Oscillation that produces what is called La Nina and El Nino. That Southern Oscillation also ties into the Arctic Jet Stream that brings the polar cold into the USA.
>>You see, I have things to take care of very serious matters very important to me and this weather stops me from getting out of the house. The daily shit about Dryas and all that stuff gets old and annoying real fast. Give us a break from the silliness.
>>
>>http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0121/ ... king-ridge
>>
California drought: Scientists puzzled by persistence of blocking 'ridge'
While much of the United States has experienced a weather year with fewer extremes and an easing drought, the record-breaking California drought – the worst since 1895 – is not leaving the region anytime soon, according to climatologists.
The unseasonal balmy but dry weather is the result of an equally unprecedented high pressure ridge lurking offshore and blocking the typical winter storms needed to drop precipitation all along the West Coast.
This ridge has persisted for 13 months and the longer it lingers, the less likely it is to leave, points out climatologist Brian Fuchs, from the National Drought Mitigation Center in Lincoln, Nebraska. This high pressure ridge system is feeding on itself, “creating a sort of perfect environment for perpetuating the dry conditions” it creates, he says.
High-pressure systems are not uncommon, but it is abnormal for them to hang around uninterrupted for so long. “This makes it even harder as winter storms approach for them to break through and change that pattern,” he adds.
This recent dry spell accentuates a continuing background condition of prevailing drought across much of the Southwestern US, notes Christopher Williams, a specialist in US drought conditions and an assistant professor at Clark University’s Graduate School of Geography in Worcester, Mass.
Precipitation is below 20 percent of normal and signs of the drought impact run across the region, including low river flows, low snow packs, low reservoir levels, and out-of-season wildfires.
“Wintertime shortages are particularly worrisome,” adds Mr. Williams via e-mail, “because winter is a key time of year for building up water supplies that carry the West through the rest of the year.” What is worse, he says, “shortfalls extend well beyond the state of California itself, reaching nearly all of the remote regions on which the California water supply network relies, particularly the Colorado River Basin.”
Scientists are uncertain as to why the ridge has stubbornly refused to break down and allow incoming storms to hit land. Climate change may be one of many factors, suggests Mr. Fuchs.
“It’s always difficult to know if a specific disaster or storm is tied to climate change,” he says, but over the course of decades it is possible to see large trends moving in a certain direction. “You can’t really pinpoint one thing, but you can say that over a period of decades there is less snow accumulation and warmer temperatures, and climate change is playing a part in that,” he adds.
On Friday, California Gov. Jerry Brown declared a drought emergency, calling for a 20-percent voluntary conservation effort state-wide.
This is just the beginning, says Doug Parker, director of the California Institute for Water Resources. “We have seen essentially no rain or snowfall this year and short- and long-term forecasts are bleak for California,” says Mr. Parker via e-mail, adding that this means that California will have very low water deliveries to much of its agricultural sector.
This agriculture is an important part of the state’s economy, points out Parker. “This will lead to fallowing of farmland which will reduce output and reduce employment,” he suggests, adding that could drive up the prices of certain commodities. In addition, the dairy and meat sectors will be particularly hard hit, he notes, as those sectors will have to import feed.
The drought throughout the West will impact other states similarly, points out Parker.
The drought will increase pressure on already over-used groundwater supplies, says Parker. “We have seen dropping groundwater levels in many parts of the state. We expect growers to increase use of groundwater, especially for tree and vine crops. This will accelerate the decline in groundwater,” he adds.
Little currently on the horizon offers much hope for change, says California climatologist Mike Anderson, with the Department of Water Resources.
This offshore ridge is very stable, he says, adding, “this is good news if you want nice weather, but if you want precipitation it is not.”
Re: There's Always The Weather
Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:48 am
moi621 (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:21 pm It is the return of the Younger Dryas.
A particularly cold time yet, dry.
No glacier advancement.
Moi
The Younger Dryas was a European event tied to the draining of Lake Agassiz and the temporary desalinization of the North Atlantic; it had no effect on the climate of California.