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Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:32 pm
by Danya (imported)
Friday August 3
Danya (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 12:46 pm , 2021

I have been thinking of posting an update for months. Then a friend at the 2021 MoM encouraged me to do so. For several days I've been wracking my brain about what to write. Finally, and more reasonably, I decided to stop thinking of writing and simply write the way I used to here: just wing it! :D

After posting my last post, I realized I'd left a number of topics out. Things like:

How it's been a number of years now that I've felt very settled in my gender identity of female.

Perhaps to include: how D and I 'met' on my return from Chicago.

Why I'd like to work again after being retired for some time.

Other relevant, or even irrelevant, topics.

I will post more soon.

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:55 pm
by kristoff
Friday August 3, 2021
Danya (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:32 pm After posting my last post, I realized I'd left a number of topics out. Things like:

How it's been a number of years now that I've felt very settled in my gender identity of female.

Perhaps to include: how D and I 'met' on my return from Chicago.

Why I'd like to work again after being retired for some time.

Other relevant, or even irrelevant, topics.

I will post more soon.

Watch out ! I may come up with some more topics..... Maybe yours, maybe mine....

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2021 7:05 pm
by Danya (imported)
Paolo wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:48 pm It was great seeing you at the MOM! Glad to see you, and to see the update.

It was great s
kristoff wrote: Sat Sep 04, 2021 12:55 pm eeing you, too, Paolo! It's been too long!

Watch out ! I may come up with some mor
e topics..... Maybe yours, maybe mine....

All I can say, kristoff, is bring it on! With the proviso that as the creator of this thread I will have final say as to topics here. :D I expect very little will be off limits and I'd love to hear your ideas. :)

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:44 pm
by Danya (imported)
Monday September 20, 2021

Right now, there is the welcome sound of thunder and a downpour. :) We've been way below normal rainfall for a few months.
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Sorry to say, thunder and rain have stopped. :(

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2021 9:50 am
by Danya (imported)
Monday September 20, 2021

I hope to play at one of my church's recitals f
Danya (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:44 pm eaturing multiple musicians, probably a Brahms Capriccio from Op. 117.

The correct opus number is 116 (no. 7), not 117. There are no Capricci in Op. 117.
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I just deleted the start of an essay based on this post's title. It would have been too revealing about my personal life. Although it's unlikely that anyone I know in "
Danya (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:44 pm real" (i.e., non-EA) life would read it, I want to be
Danya (imported) wrote: Tue May 10, 2016 7:40 am sure I avoid potential hurt to anyone.

What follows
Danya (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:00 pm is an edited, condensed version of my original essay.

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Danya (imported) wrote: Tue May 10, 2016 7:40 am r how I attempt to write on the title subject, I find
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Danya (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:00 pm There is an unacceptable risk of hurting others. I also find my own
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I will end this period of thread updates for now. I may return at a later date to provide more updates.

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:54 pm
by Danya (imported)
Thursday September 30, 2021

I found a workaround that will let me complete this post without any associated concern about getting too personal or involving others. I doubt that I ever discussed this in an earlier EA post.

Many decades ago, I was told by a therapist that I had been an emotionally abandoned child. For some time I doubted this since, after all, hadn't my parents loved me?

Months later, I changed therapists for reasons I will not elaborate on here. Without prompting from me, this therapist also stated that I had been emotionally abandoned as a child. Eventually, I came to understand that this meant I had no childhood whatsoever. Through a lot of talk therapy, I realized what this meant for me. This therapist at one point told me I was a "damaged person." I didn't take his assessment well, thinking he could have found a gentler way to introduce his thought. But I let him know right away that I wasn't "damaged." Turns out, though, he was right.

[An aside: I know it's likely a number of folks here had far worse childhoods than mine; it is not my intention to minimize their experiences in any way. Rather, I seek only to explain, in part, how I was eventually able to move to a place of happiness from a very unhappy time as a child, adolescent, and young adult.]

As a child, I basically found refuge from my parents' emotional absence by withdrawing into myself. With only a superficial childhood friend or two at any given time, my time away from school and studying was spent practicing the piano, gardening, astronomy, and reading. All solo activities that I loved (and still do) but that were not at all good for social development.

I'm going to summarize the remainder of my adolescent/early adulthood years/mid-adult years by noting I had major depression. More details would drag me down. :(

After I fully accepted the "emotionally abandoned" argument, I decided that I had no choice but to be a parent to myself. Whether or not all psychologists agree with this approach, with enough time it worked for me. I was on my way to being a complete, adult person, not the two-dimensional person one therapist described me as. He was absolutely correct, btw. Because I didn't get who I truly am, there was no way I could open up to others.

It was some years later before I decided I needed to make a major change in my life. That is, come out as gay - a not uncommon conclusion for MtoF transgender folks who are attracted to men. If one is actually an MtoF woman, it's much, much easier to believe you're gay rather than transgender. You can get by without:

awkward talks with your boss and HR about the many changes to come,

changes to your appearance and wardrobe,

name change,

problems with your local driver's license bureau refusing to follow state law in offering you a license with your chosen gender,

Hormone Replacement Therapy (HRT),

sex reassignment surgery,

changes to the name on your birth certificate or other important documents

and endless debates over whether there really was a difference between transsexual and transgender identifications. Hey, this was a while ago, folks!

If you'd be interested in any or all of the above, anyway. As if! :D

At this point in my journey, I barely knew what being transgender meant.

It took me a few more years before I started seeing a gay therapist who I soon asked out for lunch. He politely, and quite properly, refused. :-\ After we spoke for several visits, he did suggest that I might be transgender. I told him I was too old to transition. He shot back with the fact that he had a patient about 10 years older than I who was transitioning. This in no way convinced me that I was transgender, let alone that I should transition.

Amazingly enough, it took roughly another ten years before I fully accepted that I am transgender. It seemed the realization hit me out of the blue. Several good friends here were watching over me, knowing that at an earlier time on EA I thought I was a eunuch and had discussed that transition with a therapist. I will always be grateful for their loving concern.

I eventually transitioned from male to female, traversing the entire list of procedures and steps I listed in items 1 through 8, above. I consider my transition experience an adventure and a high point of my life. People that knew me before I transitioned still comment: "You glow," "You're so happy" (that one seems to particularly surprise folks!). I consider myself very fortunate to have come to this point in my life.

I remain happy with my life. Very few transgender women get married; I have a wonderful husband. Of course, my life is not an endless series of completely happy moments. I have down times but I'm now able to prevent those from hijacking my days.

Anyway, there was the time I first met Kristoff on a cold, snowy winter evening at a Minneapolis something or other (I think it was on Lyndale, Kristoff). I had on what I viewed as a macho leather jacket with a leather baseball hat. Kristoff wasn't buying it.....

Well, I need to save some items for later posts. :D

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:16 am
by kristoff
Thursday September 30, 2021
Danya (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 6:54 pm Anyway, there was the time I first met Kristoff on a cold, snowy winter evening at a Minneapolis something or other (I think it was on Lyndale, Kristoff). I had on what I viewed as a macho leather jacket with a leather baseball hat. Kristoff wasn't buying it.....

Well, I need to save some items for later posts. :D

I remember that evening quite well. It was storming sleet and snow and was ugly; but the next day is always bright. It was at Vera's Coffee Shop at 29th and South Lyndale, which unfortunately is no longer there. I remember the leather outfit and thinking it just wasn't the real you. We did some discovering that night as part of a long conversation. I went away thinking you'd be safe and were started on a new path of great adventure. I am pleased that I was right. It has been an adventure following you from that time on, and I appreciate it.

K-

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:36 pm
by JesusA (imported)
While I'm far away and only get to see you occasionally, I've seen your transition from before to after. It is amazing to see you now. You do glisten and glitter. You glow with happiness. You and your husband are a wonderful pair of happy people.

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 7:54 pm
by Danya (imported)
Tuesday October 6
kristoff wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 5:16 am , 2021

I remember that evening quite well. It was storming sleet and snow and was ugly; but the next day is always bright. It was at Vera's Coffee Shop at 29th and South Lyndale, which unfortunately is no longer there. I remember the leather outfit and thinking it just wasn't the real you. We did some discovering that night as part of a long conversation. I went away thinking you'd be safe and were started on a new path of great adventure. I am pleased that I was right. It has been an adventure following you from that time on, and I appreciate it.

K-

Yes, Kristoff, your memories of that evening together triggered my recollection of Vera's Coffee Shop. I think we sat by the front door and we did visit for quite a while. Before our visit, I remember parking in a lot where you slide cash into a slot by your parking
JesusA (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 3:36 pm spot number. Thank you for your kind words.

While I'm far away and only get to see you occasionally, I've seen your transition from before to after. It is amazing to see you now. You do glisten and glitter. You glow with happiness. You and your
husband are a wonderful pair of happy people.

Jesus, thanks for your compliments! You witnessed me transition
EricaAnn (imported) wrote: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:43 am both physically and mentally.

Re: Transitioning at work and in all of my life

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:06 pm
by Paolo
I have fond memories of Vera's as well. The barista couldn't believe I wanted five T-shirts. My youngest nephew got in so much trouble for wearing his to school!