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Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:16 pm
by JessicaH (imported)
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:35 pm
Sorry, but hair loss as your biggest reason to seek castration is a dumb reason. No if you truly have gender identity or body dysmorphia then go ahead it could be for the best.
Testosterone does make you lose hair, and mine is receding a lot (and sure I would like to have it back). But guess what? When you've actually embraced your masculinity and shaped your body into a nice specimen it turns out women don't really care about the hair that much. Plus short shave hair is perfectly acceptable nowadays and there have been studies that show that people perceive it to be a more dominant, virile look. When you're muscular, energetic and filled with sexual energy women will notice that. By the way, most Hollywood leading actors with "great hair" actually are mostly bald -- Google pictures of John Travolta or Nicholas Cage's true hair.
In fact I will go as far as to say that if you channel your testosterone properly you will get a huge boost in self-esteem. You'll be top dog in social situations, dominant in the boardroom, impressive in the gym (and bedroom).
Think about what you're saying -- that your vanity is worth you considering seriously tampering with the way your body chemistry works. Is it really? I've been a big supporter for people who truly need castration to help them (I'm the one that started this thread!) but the truth is that disrupting your testosterone without transitioning to estrogen has serious health effects. You will basically have a body and mentality of a post-menopausal woman! That means moodiness/depression, low energy, muscle loss, fat gain, brittle bones, dry vagina (well you don't have to worry about that one...). So you should only embark on this path if it is the only way.
Now if you're going to take estrogen, that is fine but understand that that will feminize you. Is that what you want?
Are you really, really sure that either case (castrated with or without estrogen supplementation) is better than being fully realized as a man (even if that means a bald one)?
Please think very carefully about this. Have you really tried to be the best man you could be before you gave up on being one? Did you try the stuff I wrote about -- embracing your sexuality, doing masculine things, doing intense exercise and thrill seeking, etc.?
Sorry for being so direct, but what you're doing is serious and it is important to sort out your priorities and objectively look at what you're in for.
Again, if you actually have identity issues where you don't want to be male then that's a different story. But so far what you've written sounds different (you've talked about hypersexuality and talked about hair loss issues).
That is some of the best advice that I've ever seen here. a bald, virile man is way sexier than a fluffy guy with beautiful hair. I think he may want to explore his reasons at a deeper level and really seek out why he desires castration. You may want to actually look at other things to lower your libido besides lowering T levels. You may do well on Prozac or another SSRI. BTW, what kind of reaction did you have from the spiro that almost killed you? Lowering T and taking E is no guarantee that your libido will drop. I have low T and estrogen really fires up my libido so don't take it as a certainty that that is your answer.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:02 am
by Frida G Cavic (imported)
three days ago I injected 1ml of 40% cacl2 mixed with vodka 40% in my right testicle and 1.2ml in the left. the pain rise to 8 out of 10 in the next three hours then low down to 4 out of 10 the next few hours until now. I took Ibuprofen the first hours.
I used an 23g 1"(2.5cm ) needle and inserted from the bottom. I inserted almost all the 1", I hope do not have went too deep and touched the spermatic cord!
the right testicle sized around 3cm (1.18") and the left sized 3.5cm(1.377")
the next two days I suffered of a terrible irritable bowel syndrome and I went to the doctor. I have to clear that I always have had some problems of gastrointestinal distress and constipation so I think that the pain in my testicles reflected into my bowel and worsened my problems. Now I feel a bit better, I´m taking some meds for this issues. In the morning my urine is darker and some reddish but in the rest of the day It gets clear. the pain is focused in spermatic cords which has suprised me It feels like somebody is squeeze them. Both testciles seem have increased Its size. As I´m taking estradiol and antiandrogens I could not talk about lack of testosterone signs.
I will keep posting
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:13 am
by rikerscage (imported)
Fredyede, The swelling in the testicles will go down, this is normal for about a week or so before they start to go down. I'm jealous admittedly, you will have the estrodial to keep you healthier (ostioperosis prevention better use of the estrogen overall) IMHO. I'm very happy for you.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:06 am
by Frida G Cavic (imported)
rikerscage (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:13 am
Fredyede, The swelling in the testicles will go down, this is normal for about a week or so before they start to go down. I'm jealous admittedly, you will have the estrodial to keep you healthier (ostioperosis prevention better use of the estrogen overall) IMHO. I'm very happy for you.
Thank you so much rikerscage. I suspended for three days my hormones due to my gastrointestinal problems. I will be watching my state .On the other hand I would not like to inject again, not soon but I would It If necessary.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:54 pm
by jcat (imported)
Freddie a 23 guage needle is too big, you risk leakage into the scrotum. You should be using 25-27 guage. Others please note.
Leakage into the scrotum will cause necrosis on the inside of the scrotum. This could get very nasty.
Fortunately, you did not inject very much.
Please take care.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:15 am
by Frida G Cavic (imported)
jcat (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:54 pm
Freddie a 23 guage needle is too big, you risk leakage into the scrotum. You should be using 25-27 guage. Others please note.
Leakage into the scrotum will cause necrosis on the inside of the scrotum. This could get very nasty.
Fortunately, you did not inject very much.
Please take care.
is 23Gtoo thick or too long?
I just followed closely the instructions showed here
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first.org/programs/non-surgical-sterilization/
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in the paper they suggested using a 23G 1" for small dogs.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:55 am
by rusty crown (imported)
Frida G Cavic (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 17, 2015 11:15 am
is 23Gtoo thick or too long?
I just followed closely the instructions showed here
[quot
first.org/programs/non-surgical-sterilization/
[/quote]
in the paper they suggested using a 23G 1" for small dogs.
Both. More painful, too. Our balls are different.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 8:03 pm
by tom73612 (imported)
Yesterday I took the plunge... okay - a corny play on words but never the less I injected approximately 1.5 CC of Calcium Chloride mixed with 190 proof grain alcohol in a 3 to 1 blend. Only injected my right testicle. Glad I stopped the there. The pain, after a couple hours was excruciating. I did the injection about 3:00PM and at midnight I was still awake.
I use an 18G needle with a 3 ml syringe. Been using these for the alcohol injections I've done the past 3 weeks.
Much rougher than I expected but I made it through last night and the day today with less pain and discomfort as time passes. My testicle is at least twice it's normal size and very tender. My left testicle is much smaller and may already be damaged beyond repair but that's for another post. I have an appointment with an endocrinologist in early December so I wanted to do this before my appointment.
Should be interesting to see how my tests come out. My T levels were already down somewhat which prompted my endocrinologist appointment made as a referral by my family doctor.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:22 pm
by rusty crown (imported)
JessicaH (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 09, 2015 11:16 pm
, what kind of reaction did you have from the spiro that almost killed you?
Once my blood pressure dropped significantly. My head was one inch far from the toilet seat when I fell down on the floor.
Re: Calcium Chloride and Other Salt Injections for Castration
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:31 pm
by rusty crown (imported)
SplitDik, this thread might give a brief look at my situation:
http://forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php ... post261348
Anyway, there's no wrong personal choice.