Earthquake? lets see, they happen about every 20 years, big ones that is, northern California, then southern California. I think you guys are about due for one.

BTW, Climate change has nothing to do with Earthquakes or Tsunamis.

How far is Moi from the ocean? and a wont help, so stop your , OH sorry I should just keep my .

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:39 am Earthquake? lets see, they happen about every 20 years, big ones that is, northern California, then southern California. I think you guys are about due for one.

BTW, Climate change has nothing to do with Earthquakes or Tsunamis.

How far is Moi from the ocean? and a wont help, so stop your , OH sorry I should just keep my .

River

http://news.yahoo.com/monster-tsunami-c ... 57010.html

Monster tsunami could devastate California: study

The good news is that three-quarters of California's coastline is cliffs, and thus immune to the harsher and more devastating impacts tsunamis could pose," said Lucy Jones, who led the study.

I believe the ocean is about a mile as the crow walks to the ocean from maybe an elevation of 100' at my home.

The crow would walk along Jamboree Rd down a hill about half way to sea level then up a hill then down a hill to near sea level then up a hill to cross Pacific Coast Highway, then down the hill to near sea level to Balboa Island, across the bay to Balboa Peninsula to the ocean.

I do believe I am safe perched up on my bluff. The n'hood is called, "Eastbluff".



Another hot, Hot, HOT day.

It is like October in September



Just checked. According to this site my elevation is 144'

http://veloroutes.org/elevation/

Then maybe you should look at what happened in Japan, one village miles from the coast, up on a hill was almost washed away, 100' is not nearly high enough and as for those cliffs, tell me Moi, what happens when it rains a lot after fire season has removed all the houses that are built on those bluffs? How many times in your life and mine has Hwy 1 or when joined 101 been washed away and must be rebuilt? Cliffs? think again. You might be on a bluff but now think about this, all that water going inland at its lowest point then spreading out then filling up the area, then ripping everything in its path heading back to the lowest point, think the western edge of California dropping 3" at a 3 degree tilt.

Reminds me of,

There was a crooked man, and he walked a crooked mile.

He found a crooked sixpence against a crooked stile.

He bought a crooked cat, which caught a crooked mouse,

And they all lived together in a little crooked house.

You already have the Cat

It could happen again in a place near you,

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/ ... _03_11.php

River

Well River DEAR

I so appreciate your concern but I am 144', not a mere 100' above sea level

PLUS

There are all sorts of diversions to near sea level expanses between me and that tsunami.

1) before the bluff of Pacific Coast Highway and Jamboree. That would require the submersion of Balboa Island and the Peninsula beyond. Rich people won't let that happen.

2) The dip after the PCH bluff gives great access to upper Newport Bay which is surrounded by cliffs.

3) The next dip does likewise with canyon space to the right too, they call it Big Canyon.

The water would then have to rise back from near sea level to 144' beyond the canyon options and openings to upper Newport Bay. I think it would have to flood the great plains of Irvine at the head of upper Newport Bay up the San Diego Creek, before it could rise to affect me. I could be an island.

Once every ten years there is a really heavy rain.

I have 3, 4" drain pipes draining my back yard. I have stood under my Uber awning seeing the black clouds of the twister in Costa Mesa. And I stayed dry. The rain all drained.

I have spent the last ten years improving the infrastructure of this home to assure me my dying place in 3.5 decades or beyond. Even a Natural Gas power generator. Automatic too.

BTW where you aware of the massive volcano 1000 miles towards Hawaii from Japan?

Tamu Maddif.

You should read up on it.

It could just flip an island like a pancake.

Forewarned is forewarned.

moi621 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:26 pm ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Intermittent hot humid weather and just mildly hot.

Thunderhead clouds can be seen beyond the mountains.

The Liquid Amber trees are showing signs of Autumnal colors.

If it is October in September, what is in store?

An early Spring ?

A Long Winter ?

Or just a prolonged Autumn ?

Maybe our ration of rain will come this year.

Moi

WeatherWatcher

MOI,

I'm an engineer with some experience in fluid flow -- like water through a pipe or over a weir. I've see four foot diameter water valves leak (not break, just leak) and it's enough to move cars, trailer homes, wash out gravel, lift asphalt...

My yard which is the side of a hill drains so much water my neighbor has a mound fifteen inches high and 150 feet long to keep my rain off his gravel driveway because of water flow during normal rains.

Three four-inch diameter drains are suitable for nice rains. When the real flood rain hits those four-inchers can't remove the sheer volume of water that comes from the clouds. You'll be up to your nether regions in cold water...

ooh just the thought makes me shiver!!!

Yes they can and have.

I only have a neighbor on one side of my house, I have downhill on three sides.

Sidewalks and streets are below my home's pad.

When the architect contractor neighbor put in the first pipe he said that would be sufficient.

Luckily that was a rainy year and that one pipe could not handle it.

But, I have my electric water pump and get the hoses set up like siphons for those occurrences.

Since the second two pipes went in, there has been no event so heavy they could not handle them.

And there have been events. Like buckets of water pouring, not raining.

Experience counts for something.

Do you think River DEAR island might flip like a pancake with Tamu Maddif

between there and Fukashima?

moi621 (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2013 7:48 pm Yes they can and have.

I only have a neighbor on one side of my house, I have downhill on three sides.

Sidewalks and streets are below my home's pad.

When the architect contractor neighbor put in the first pipe he said that would be sufficient.

Luckily that was a rainy year and that one pipe could not handle it.

But, I have my electric water pump and get the hoses set up like siphons for those occurrences.

Since the second two pipes went in, there has been no event so heavy they could not handle them.

And there have been events. Like buckets of water pouring, not raining.

Experience counts for something.

Do you think River DEAR island might flip like a pancake with Tamu Maddif

between there and Fukashima?

When the BIG one hits, and Balboa Island sinks into the ocean and the tsunami hits, your pipes will be broken from the earthquake and wont help you, and your house will be 14" off center leaning to the sea, and the big crack in the earth running across your back yard and then what?

Not to worry about a rival volcano, Hawaii has two active volcano's and the base measured from the ocean floor makes it taller then Everest so not to worry, plus the lava flows always go down the other side of the island, but I don't care I love to live dangerously, I was born and raised in California where that kind of shit happens all the time.

BTW most people reading this thread would agree with me, they would never want to live in California because of all the Earthquakes. They would rather live in the mid West or south, east coast even where they have tornado's, blizzards, floods, Hurricane's, wrath of god stuff every year, then face ONE Earthquake maybe in their life.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 06, 2013 9:23 pm When the BIG one hits, and Balboa Island sinks into the ocean and the tsunami hits, your pipes will be broken from the earthquake and wont help you, and your house will be 14" off center leaning to the sea, and the big crack in the earth running across your back yard and then what?

Not to worry about a rival volcano, Hawaii has two active volcano's and the base measured from the ocean floor makes it taller then Everest so not to worry, plus the lava flows always go down the other side of the island, but I don't care I love to live dangerously, I was born and raised in California where that kind of shit happens all the time.

BTW most people reading this thread would agree with me, they would never want to live in California because of all the Earthquakes. They would rather live in the mid West or south, east coast even where they have tornado's, blizzards, floods, Hurricane's, wrath of god stuff every year, then face ONE Earthquake maybe in their life.

River



The Greatest State of California does not need such schlemiels.

BTW How is YOUR weather, River DEAR

YOU too :tongueout Dave ! No weather to share on the Weather Thread, or even "nature" ?

Moi of California, the O.C.

feeling ragged on

My area has been having typical weather -- nothing to talk about.

It's late summer, warm, sunny, gentle rains once a week or so and that's so perfectly normal, I don't worry about the weather.

Today would be a good day to trim the iris back, clear the wreckage from the flower beds and garden near the house, etc. I was doing just this when the colony of mini bumblebees under the AC unit mount decided to come out and have a look. One stung me through a jersey glove on my finger, second section. Fortunately, he/she didn't get much venom injected because of the glove. I guess this project is over for the day. The little bastards are lucky that my new nuclear bomb hasn't arrived yet.

I did find a volunteer tomato in there, though. No idea how it got there, but it seems to be doing well.

Speaking of which, I have seen 0 tomato worms this year. When I was a kid, it was big deal to go hunting them every evening. I did see the parent moth, however, in the primrose the other night. Just no offspring. Now to identify this odd ringed caterpillar (not a Monarch) I found.