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Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 6:55 pm
by luvpain (imported)
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The Orginal Story (http://www.freep.com/news/locoak/noak4_20030404.htm)

OAK PARK

Jury to start deciding case of illegal surgery

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luvpain (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 24, 2002 7:24 pm Shuo-S
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and illegally dispensing prescription drugs.

During two days of trial, Oakland County Assistant Prosecutor Ken Frazee told the four men and 10 women on the jury that Wang had performed several such castrations in his home, advertising on the Internet.

But in the early morning hours of June 8, after he performed surgery on a 49-year-old Birmingham man, the man bled profusely. He was rushed to the hospital.

He spent two to three days in the hospital, getting repaired what the defendant had done to him."

Frazee asked jurors to overlook the fact the victim had sought the procedure from Wang. The victim testified he asked for the surgery to eliminate his sex drive because he was HIV positive. Wang told police the man had fantasized a
luvpain (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:37 pm bout castration since childhood.

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luvpain (imported) wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2002 11:23 pm the act. And the evidence is clear. He di
d," Frazee said.

Defense attorney Steven Reina presented a string of character witnesses who told jurors Wang was a kind, law-abiding citizen, with no prior criminal record who performed such procedures out of compassion. And he asked jurors to consider the circumstances of the surgery.

The patient, Reina said, "had a free and open mind. There was no violence or coercion used."

The case is before Oakland County Circuit Judge Fred Mester.

By L.L. Brasier

Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:03 pm
by luvpain (imported)
The Detroit News (http://www.detnews.com/)

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Trial starts over surgery in kitchen

Jury selection begins in case of Oak Park man accused of performing unlicensed castration

By Jennifer Chambers / The Detroit News

PONTIAC -- It was a skill passed down by his grandparents that the would-be surgeon first practiced on a dog.

But performing a castration on a 48-year-old Oakland County man without a medical license landed Shuo-Shan Wang in trouble with the law and left his victim in need of emergency surgery.

Today, jury selection is to begin in Oakland Circuit Court in the case against Wang, a Taiwanese national who admitted to police that
luvpain (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:37 pm in a 40-minute procedure last June on his kitchen table
in Oak Park, he removed the testicles of a Birmingham man.

After the surgery Wang placed the man's testicles in a container and put it in his refrigerator. The men then shared some pie on the same table, investigators said.

The castrated man began to bleed uncontrollably and was found outside Wang's home sitting on a curb in blood-soaked jeans. He was rushed to the hospital and underwent emergency surgery. He has since recovered.

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a felony, and dispensing prescription medication without a license. Wang had pleaded guilty to the charges in December but withdrew his plea last month after an Oakland County judge said he would impose more than six months of jail time.

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ily underwent the procedure, prosecutors said, to remove his sex drive after he had contracted a sexually transmitted disease.

Assistant Prosecutor Ken Frazee said the law is clear that a person cannot perform surgery without a medical license and that consent is no defense.

"I think the jury will see pretty clearly you can't have people going arou
luvpain (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:37 pm nd performing medical procedures without the proper licensing," Frazee said.

Defense attorney Steve Reina had told the judge that Wang does not deserve harsh punishment because he has no prior criminal record and performed the castration on a man who sought the procedure. Reina was unavailable for comment Monday.

If convicted of the felony, Wang will face up to four years in prison. The other charge of dispensing medicine is a 90-day misdemeanor.

Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:04 pm
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Jury convicts man of castrating another

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luvpain (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2002 2:51 am of practicing medicine without a license.

Suo-Shan Wang, 29, fought back tears and put his face in his hands following the verdict in Oakland County Circuit Court. He was also found guilty of distributing prescription medication without a license. He faces up to four years in prison w
luvpain (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2003 6:55 pm hen he is sentenced April 21, although
he will likely get less time because he has no record. He remains free on a $25,000 bond.

The verdict came after two days of trial, including an afternoon of testimony from Wang's victim. The man, 48, of Birmingham, told jurors he located Wang on the Internet and sought the surgery in June to eliminate his sex drive because he has HIV. Wang told police later that he had been performing castrations since 1994, and learned the technique from family members in his native Taiwan.

The man began bleeding profusely shortly after the surgery and was taken to a nearby hospital. He was hospitalized for two days.

The trial was before Circuit Judge Fred Mester, who, earlier this year, rejected a plea bargain that would have put Wang on probation for six months. Mester said at the time that the castration should carry a jail sentence.

By L.L. Brasier

Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:20 pm
by Paolo
Ye gods......

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Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:47 pm
by Andrew (imported)
Ye gods......

😱

Not a surprise, though. By law, the question was not whether Don consented to the operation, but whether the defendent had broken the law. Which he had. Had I been on the jury, I would have, reluctantly, voted guilty.

(But I wonder, did the lawyers, during the picking of the jury, asked if any of the male jurors were castrated or knew somebody well who had been castrated?)

Hopefully, the sentence will be light, perhaps even suspended?

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Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 7:10 am
by luvpain (imported)
Well he has the same judge as before the one that wanted him to face at least 6 months in jail. I really hope that the sentence will be light as he is a very good friend of mine.

Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:51 pm
by happousai (imported)
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Andrew (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:47 pm By law, the question was not whether Don consented to

> the operation, but whether the defendent had broken

> the law. Which he had. Had I been on the jury, I would

> have, reluctantly, voted guilty.

Had I been on the jury, I would have voted Innocent even though it was clear that the defendant broke the letter of the law. Screw the law; the law is wrong.

Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 8:57 pm
by Andrew (imported)
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Andrew (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 06, 2003 7:47 pm By law, the question was not whether Don consented to

> the operation, but whether the defendent had broken

> the law. W
happousai (imported) wrote: Mon Apr 07, 2003 5:51 pm hich he had. Had I been on the jury, I would

> have, reluctantly, voted guilty.

Had I been on the jury, I would have voted Innocent even though it was clear that the defendant broke t
he letter of the law. Screw the law; the law is wrong.

This
Andrew (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 12, 2003 5:53 am is known as "Jury Nullification", and is
a very controversial subject. But it does happen.

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Re: Castration can go wrong

Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2003 9:29 pm
by Blaise (imported)
Clearly, this is an area where government intruded where it was not needed or wanted by the parties directly involved. :(