nvrgag44 (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:03 pm Please re-read post 1024. Did I not say I was injecting EVERCLEAR? I got it at the liquor store on a shelf next to the vodka, not in the paint section at the hardware store or the home remedy section at the drug store. OK? Now I still would like to know if I can expect it to help kill my balls or will I have to eventually use calcium chloride. Thank you.

That stuff is not available here

nvrgag44 (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:03 pm Please re-read post 1024. Did I not say I was injecting EVERCLEAR? I got it at the liquor store on a shelf next to the vodka, not in the paint section at the hardware store or the home remedy section at the drug store. OK? Now I still would like to know if I can expect it to help kill my balls or will I have to eventually use calcium chloride. Thank you.

I've known people to inject as many as 30 times to kill them. It varies wildly.

Frida G Cavic (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:30 pm Denatured alcohol, that is a common home antiseptic, is useful for injections??????.

I read on the label that contains denatonium benzoate and etilic alcohol 70%

No. Please no.

Use only alcohol you can drink. That's why people talk about Everclear and its European equivalent (I forget the name).

Anything you put in a hypodermic should be food or USP grade because it can enter the blood stream and "denatured alcohol" is poisonous to the liver and several other organs.

added: if you can't get Everclear, then use the clearest, non-flavored, highest proof vodka you can buy. That is a safe substitute but a slightly less potent substitute.

Yes, each time they swell and then shrink to smaller than they were before the injection. They also become harder. After two CaCl injections mine were very small and it was very difficult to insert the needle.

kristoff wrote: Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:49 pm I've known people to inject as many as 30 times to kill them. It varies wildly.

Thanks for the response. It's good to know the Everclear should do the trick even if it takes 30 times. Needles, alcohol swabs and Everclear are inexpensive. My T levels have never been above 280 since radiation in 2006. My last check on 1-22-15 was 178. The urologist wants me back on 4-20-15 for a re-check blood draw and I see him on 4-24-15 for discussion. I began injecting 1.5 ml of Everclear in each side on 3-2-15. That will be 9 injections in each side if I'm able to inject every 5 days. Right now it's no problem but I've only injected each side twice so far. My plan is to do the last injection a week before I see him. That will hopefully give my nuts a chance to settle down so it's not so obvious what's going on. If you've got any more words of wisdom regarding the dosage, timing or whatever I'm all ears. Thanks!

I've got a urology appointment for next wednesday. I have some testosterone I've injected. I figure he'll be more likely to want to remove them if my T levels are normal. Decrease in testosterone levels doesn't appear on any list of symptoms of cancer.

I'll tell them I was taking anti-androgens, but ran out. And before I could get more, I noticed the lumps/ hard spots/ nodules on my balls. And I wanted to get them checked out before starting the meds again. Which would account for my T levels being higher (not on anti androgen).

It seems that the reason for low testosterone in testicular cancer is actually in the cancer treatment, from what I've read.

magickitty (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:46 pm I've got a urology appointment for next wednesday. I have some testosterone I've injected. I figure he'll be more likely to want to remove them if my T levels are normal. Decrease in testosterone levels doesn't appear on any list of symptoms of cancer.

I'll tell them I was taking anti-androgens, but ran out. And before I could get more, I noticed the lumps/ hard spots/ nodules on my balls. And I wanted to get them checked out before starting the meds again. Which would account for my T levels being higher (not on anti androgen).

It seems that the reason for low testosterone in testicular cancer is actually in the cancer treatment, from what I've read.

Lowering T levels with Testicular cancer, as it is with prostate cancer, is not the usual norm.

Why not just quit fucking around. Don't tell him shit, other than hey look Doc, what's up?

You've got them where you wanted them. Let him look and feel. Then if he doesn't offer to remove them, find someone else.

kristoff wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:11 pm Lowering T levels with Testicular cancer, as it is with prostate cancer, is not the usual norm.

Why not just quit fucking around. Don't tell him shit, other than hey look Doc, what's up?

You've got them where you wanted them. Let him look and feel. Then if he doesn't offer to remove them, find someone else.

I agree, I'm just thinking of what to say in case he asks a question that corresponds with that answer. I think

magickitty (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:46 pm he'll be more likely to want to remove them if

there's a cancer possibility compared to just dead balls.

magickitty (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:22 pm I agree, I'm just thinking of what to say in case he asks a question that corresponds with that answer. I think

magickitty (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:22 pm ]
he'll be more likely to want to remove them if

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there's a cancer possibility compared to just dead balls.

dead balls can go gangrene, too.

Just tell him theyre odd, can't feel them. If he starts suggesting removal, just agree and stick to that point. If you need to just lead the conversation where you want it. Remember, doctors are like cheerios. You don't like cheerios, get corn flakes...

[/U]]dead balls can go gangrene, too.

kristoff wrote: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:44 pm Just tell him theyre odd, can't feel them. If he starts suggesting removal, just agree and stick to that point. If you need to just lead the conversation where you want it. Remember, doctors are like cheerios. You don't like cheerios, get corn flakes...

I love this thread. I've read the whole thing and learned so much. After only two 1.5ml injections of everclear my right one is big as an egg, soft on the outside but very firm on the inside. Doesn't hurt the nut to squeeze hard but I get an ache in the outside of my lower back when I do. I assume it's the chord that hurts but this is a new development. It never did that before. I have a blood draw scheduled for 4-20 and an appointment with the urologist on 4-24. My plan is to inject each side every 5 days, stopping a week before the appointment.

Can't see a testicle, how do we know if gangrene is setting in?