A medical study that includes chemisterisol (tm) , calicium chloride mixture, is at this web site, but the medical jargon makes it a bit hard for me to comprehend.

Sounds promising though.

http://bic.boseinst.ernet.in/kuladip/

More info here:

http://www.drugs.com/pro/calcium-chloride.html

such as: Calcium Chloride Injection, USP, 10%

SilviaCor (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:22 am is irritating to veins and must not be injected into tissues, since severe necrosis and sloughing may occur. Great care should be taken to avoid extravasation or accidental injection into perivascular tissues.

Based upon this statement, injecting it into a testicle might likely cause the necrosis of leydig cells (producers of testosterone).

But, as with anything, there are other potential harmful considerations.

To be, or not be........a guinea pig. That is the question.

Something, do you feel a drop in your T , you think that calcium chloride worked?

knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:45 am Something, do you feel a drop in your T , you think that calcium chloride worked?

I don't think it'd happen so quickly... o_O. I've heard something about the pituitary gland producing testosterone when there's a sudden drop, so I don't think I'll know for a while.

Hi SplitDik, you said in one of your last posts "

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:30 am Another form of heat sterilization is boiling

". All right, but when the proccess is done ¿The liquid have to be inserted in the syringe directly or you have to put it in a sterile bottle? ¿It's no contaminate with the air when you let it to low the temperature for use it later? If you can answer my questions i'll get pleased thank you so much, i love this post.

P.D: I have read some part of the link's page and i think you forgot to put this:

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:30 am To ensure complete sterility, the 212°F (100°C) temperature must be maintained for 30 minutes.

Even then, some bacterial spores, such as those of Bacillus or Clostridium can survive. To guarantee sterilization, fluids must be boiled for an extended time or intermittent boiling can be done, wherein at least threend up to 30eriods of boiling are interspersed with time to allow the fluid to cool.

I mean that even if you have boiled for 30 minutes, some bacterias can survive and you have to do what he say the text in the following lines.

I would not advise for anyone to try this out being that we have not found a medical grade version to buy over the internet. Something, thanks for being a guini pig but its still difficult to know if it did anything and I am pretty sure your not up to doing that again, not egging u on either. Maybe this stuff works but it might be way too painful to endure.

Okay, the thing is that safety is always relative and personal, and each has to make their own judgement.

My reason for presenting my findings on calcium chloride is intended for people who were already injecting alcohol, banding, or contemplating burdizzo or cutters. I believe it is safer than any of those methods.

The vodka that people have been injecting is definitely not medically grade sterile. Vodka is worse than calcium chloride for sterility because it contains sugar which is like super fuel for bacteria, and is only counter balanced by the high alcohol content. Salt isn't good food for bacteria. Vodka also contains other chemicals, such as that give it flavor. So if you're already injecting alcohol, calcium chloride (even food grade) is going to be at least as sterile and more pure than that.

The argument about "food grade" versus "medical grade" is a bit overblown. Food product producers don't want dangerous bacteria like e. coli or listeria in their food, so liquid food products are generally pasteurized or otherwise sterilized or naturally antiseptic. And of course the medical product industry isn't really any better regulated than the food industry (just look at this recent menengitis issue, or just research the horror stories about poor practices for blood transfusions, transplant organs and corpse tissues that regularly make the news).

Also, you can't be a germophobe -- the world is full of bacteria. Even a "sterile" needle is going to get some airborne bacteria on it before it is inserted, and even alcohol swabbed skin will have bacteria that will get pulled in during an injection.

In terms of fatal infections, assuming you take precautions, it seems like it is more about factors like bad luck (someone gets a scratch just like any other scratch, but it develops flesh-eating disease), or personal immune system (I personally never have any problems with cuts, acne, etc. and rarely get sick).

Basically it is all relative. If you're already endangering yourself with other attempts at castration, then I'm pretty sure this is in the lesser range of those. If you're already texting while driving, riding bicycle without a helmet, taking recreational drugs, etc. it's the same thing.

On the other hand, if you get infections easily, know that you are not good at meticulous tasks, or are prone to excessiveness (like you might decide to inject too much, to skip steps in preparing, to repeatedly inject before letting the process happen, etc.) then you shouldn't try anything like this.

Furthermore, even surgical castration is risky. People like Kristoff here had horrendous experiences with a supposed qualified doctor. Also, chemical castration is risky, especially when purchasing the drugs online and not being monitored by a doctor.

So it is up to you. But it is also important to have perspective before declaring something too risky, the alternatives may be just as risky.

Seems like everyone is right.

Everything is risky.

Getting up in the morning, driving to work, eating food at a cafe

If one has a hypersex drive, maybe doing nothing about it is risky.

So, in the end, it is a debacle.

To do, or not do, and via what method, that is the question.

I chose. I did. Got lucky. No negative, only positive consequences.

Someone else using any method, or doing nothing, may have negative consequences.

The only absolute in life is that eventually, our body will die.

How we chose to use each microsecond is ours to decide, (assuming we are conscious and able to decide).

((sure options are limited if in confinement or under other conditions, but if conscious limited decision making is possible).

But there is no harm in exploring possibilities, options, sharing thoughts, positives, negatives, experiences.

That there is discussion, even debate, is good.

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 22, 2012 2:42 am Sorry for the multiple posts, but I also heard from the guy who injected on Nov. 5.

Was there ever a post of the video taken by the lady that injected him?

Your saying this stuff is more pure than vodka. I am very interested in giving this a spin. Not really sure what's the right version of this stuff to purchase.

licksclean69 (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 23, 2012 9:44 am Was there ever a post of the video taken by the lady that injected him?

She gave me the video on an SD card, but it didn't play, maybe because she had Mac or the SD card had some camera format. I'm meeting her again maybe next week and will try with USB stick. Stay tuned.