tightsac (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2007 7:45 am you might experience tinnitus (noise in the ears).

I have never heard of this in regards to males. There is a debate whether tinnitus, as reported by a few women at the time of menopause, is more due to several confounding factors (such as medicine side effects and/or stress) rather than due to the hormonal changes that occur during the menopause. Personally I think that this is the most likely explanation.

smoothie36 (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:35 pm Well, that Eunuchoid theory is a very interesting concept. I am chem castrated with low T (82). My urologist does not know and wants to have me take T shots. I could stop my meds and take T and see if it does the shrivel thing for me. Is there some science to the concept because many guys have taken T and had not heard of the shrivel after effect before. Any light on this subject would help me to decide a course of action.

There's plenty of science to the concept. Just do web searches for "trt testicular atrophy" and you'll find a lot on the subject ("trt" means "testosterone replacement therapy").

But, to give you a brief explanation, what happens when you take testosterone is, it shuts down your natural production which, in turn, shuts down sperm production. Since the testicles are no longer working, they atrophy. The rate of atrophy and extent of atrophy is individual, but many guys report their balls shrinking to the size of small grapes and even raisins. Eventually, they can disappear entirely.

And, testosterone is very important for health (in spite of all the anti-testosterone propaganda out there) especially as you get older. Did you know, for example, that low testosterone is a main cause of incontinence in elderly men? Imagine having to wear diapers every night and waking up with shi**y diapers every morning. Talk about no quality of life, it doesn't get much worse than that.

Eunuchist (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 30, 2007 7:34 am There is a debate whether tinnitus, as reported by a few women at the time of menopause, is more due to several confounding factors (such as medicine side effects and/or stress) rather than due to the hormonal changes that occur during the menopause. Personally I think that this is the most likely explanation.

I mention it because 3 weeks after I started taking testosterone, I got some tinnitus. Not real bad, but definitely noticeable. I think it was due to hormonal changes, i.e., HPTA shutdown and the dropping of LH and FSH levels to lower than pre-pubescent levels.

so can i ask what your goal is, no testicals, but full functioning everyting else

tightsac (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 28, 2007 11:17 pm Well, people are individual and I suppose that's possible, but it wouldn't be the usual case. May I ask your age and what it was you used to make them atrophy?

Spironolactone, estrogen.. ? I'm 27 now.

DavidB (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:11 pm so can i ask what your goal is, no testicals, but full functioning everyting else

Yes, that's basically it, but you need to also add, very shrunken scrotum. And, all this accomplished without surgery.

And, the beauty of this is, I get to experience castration in gradual degrees, so compared to surgical castration (which is like gorging yourself on a feast), I get to experience the luxury of gradual castration.

twaddler (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2007 2:22 pm Spironolactone, estrogen.. ? I'm 27 now.

Your young age probably explains the resilience of your balls (I am 53). They are resisting shrinking in the hope that they'll recover someday.

Wouldnt you recieve the same goals of shrinkage using a t-blocker but not going all the way down 0.

tightsac (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:27 am Your young age probably explains the resilience of your balls (I am 53). They are resisting shrinking in the hope that they'll recover someday.

Actually, I suspect his balls are all done resisting:-\

Hey now! They may recover yet; you never know.