I agree with you completely regarding Depo-Provera. It is a great non-feminizing libido suppressor.

Andrew (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2002 10:33 am For those who might want or need the information, just what is Premarin, and where did you order it?

Premarin is a powerful female hormone used for HRT manufactured from PREgnant MAres uRINe, it is a prescription drug, but can be purchased online from many online pharmacies e.g. healthlpuspharmcy.com

These companies can sell you premarin legally by sourcing the product outside the destination country, thus making it an import, this is legal in many countries.

There are many resources on the net about feminisation, type premarin into altavista or finger.com !



Regards

andyuk

Yummm, pills made from pregnant mare urine.

By the way, for those of you concerned about animal rights: Apparently the drug company produces Premarin by making mares constantly pregnant with no rest in between. This is very hard on the mares, and goes to show the wierd things humans do to animals.

I only mention this because a friend of mine cares about these things and she asked me to boycott Premarin. I personally eat meat and wear leather, and have used Premarin (which does work well). But I wanted to make sure people were informed.

AndyUk wote:

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andyuk (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2002 4:52 pm These companies can sell you premarin legally by sourcing the product outside the destination country, thus making it an import, this is legal in many countries.

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Andy,

Could you elaborate on this? My understanding is that, at least for the U.S., Customs views any entry from overseas in terms of U.S. laws. It thus makes no difference whether Premarin is available over-the-counter in the country of oriign; U.S. Customs will stop it on entry as a precription drug being shipped to someone who may or may not have a precription.

The irony, of course, is that dangerously addictive drugs are available on the street corner.

Not to sound flippant about oversexed hetero males, but we M2F's are willing to try to help alleviate the problem!

All you straight guys: keep that in mind....

Sandy-

This what u meant sandy??

:p

(picture me in all those stages after reading your post)

Peter

Peter--

The most ingenious post I have ever seen!

I think you must know...your way around!

Sandy-

happousai (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2002 3:23 pm I came across a website called "The Phoenix Project" ( http://www.abmall.com/tss/tss.html ) which sells Evanesce, "The non-prescription, Herbal-Estrogen capsule". This post (http://www.abmall.com/tss/wwwboard/messages/3558.html) on their message board suggests that you can take Evanesce to decrease your testosterone production without causing your body to become feminized (e.g. breast development, etc.).

Can anyone give me more information about this product? It's really caught my interest. I think that my testosterone levels are too high: I have to deal with unwanted erections (quite a few times, I have had to discretely "readjust" myself in public so that people wouldn't see the bulge in my pants) as well as unsatisfied sexual desires (and I end up looking at porn, when I should really be doing productive work with my time).

So I wonder if I can use this product to fix my testosterone levels without any side effects.

It doesn't seem to be too expensive, either: A bottle of 90 capsules (the recommended dosage is 1-6 capsules per day, and for the effect I'm looking for it's probably on the lower end of that) is just $15. No prescription required, discrete shipping packaging.

I'm a big fan of the BRAVA system. It's considerably more expensive, but it's actually had clinical trial done, and you can acheive truly natural, larger breasts. (They're also firmer, and higher!)

Check out their website. I have to say that herbs are real drugs, even if we don't think of them that way. No one really knows all of the effects of taking high doses of herbal supplements. Also - I checked out some of the options on WebMD, and the doc's there say that breast augmentation surgery and the BRAVA system are the only ways to get larger breasts.

I've been using it for a few weeks, and am loving it already. Best of Luck!

:luv2lurk: Hi I have been on 6-Evanesce, 6-Feminol, 2 pregenolone, and 1 Evening Primrose Oil for two years and three months. i can give u all a fairly good report:

Physical---My penis has shrunk from about 4 1/2 inches soft to mostly 2 1/2 inches soft. Penis is never hard any more. Balls are about half as big as start. Breasts have grown and are about size B cup(little more than a hand full each), skin is much softer now and I have a lot of subcutaneous fat, body hair is a lot softer now. Butt is more rounded than before. I am 64 and I have been told that there would be more subtile body changes. for example, I have not grown much in the hips, except "love handles" lol. But since last November I have been on Weight Watchers lost 30 lbs so far But my body still is soft. Oh , one more thing, for me my nipples still look like a man.

Physiological---I can no longer get an erection. It does get about as hard as a hot dog, kinda rubbery. i can still masturbate, but I only do it about once a month. I use a vibrator and still get some fluid. But the penis stays soft.

Psychological---I have no desire to have sex. I sleep every night with my wife but am not even tempted to give it a try. :-\

What else?---I started weighing about 225 lbs and I think that the higher body mass u have, the more you should take. when I am off of the herbs for a vacation, the morning erections return So the herbs are just holding off the testosterone.

Recommendations---I like the effects of the Evanesce etc. The feminization of my body is not so much that you would know it with my clothes on. But it is fun playing with my breasts and soft butt. But, I am getting tired of taking all those pills each day. (15 per day) I really know that being a eunuch is right for me. So I look forward to having my balls castrated ASAP. I do recommend that u give the herbs about at least 6 mo. trial.