My endocrinologist tells me once gyno begins in POST puberty males it normally can only be "corrected" by surgery. The softening of your aureole is a first sign of gyno, usually accompanied by "itchy/soreness" under the nipple.

thats just what i felt.

the feeling has gone away though, the itching and soreness.

now they are soft, het they still have a lump beneath.

z

nonuts (imported) wrote: Tue May 22, 2007 10:09 am The softening of your aureole is a first sign of gyno

Should nipples be hard, I mean when not erect or whatnot? I don't understand what is meant by that. The guy I was seeing recently had these hard, leatherly nipples.. is that normal for a male?

homptydumpty (imported) wrote: Tue May 22, 2007 10:18 am now they are soft, het they still have a lump beneath.

I think you must have lower natural testosterone levels than me (mine must be quite high -- it's annoying quite a bit). My breast buds only appeared when I tried replacement with estrogen and disappeared quickly after stopping -- no hardness or lumps at all.

twaddler (imported) wrote: Tue May 22, 2007 10:58 am I think you must have lower natural testosterone levels than me (mine must be quite high -- it's annoying quite a bit)

i swear we had discussed this before?! different place. different time. almost like a dream.

my T level is unknown now, last time i was checked i think it was at like 15-18, some thing like that.

when i was on the E, my chest always hurt, not just the boobiez, the whole dumb chest.

z

Just wondering for those of you who tried this, when you mention breast buds or pain int he chest, where breasts noticeable or was it more of just a feeling? Is it something that people would comment on?

i have a friend on the spiro. and on estradiol. she has an a cup now, when she/he started her chest was flat as a board, like mine.

z

I'm on E all the time and my left breast is always itchy, but I like it. Am I odd?

My breast buds began a year or so after I started using patches. I woke one morning to notice the first signs to my surprise. Really exciting. Now some 2 and a half later, they're nicely rounded and bounce when I run. Worth persevering unless you want a girlfriend.

after being on androcur for 7 months, my breast have definetly grown and are sour a fair amount of the time, i dont know if that means they are still growing