tugon (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:51 pm The Catholic Church is not amusing if you are a recovering Catholic. Yes I still carry much guilt. I remember a nun telling us that our loved ones watch down from heaven to see what we are doing. I always hoped, when I was masturbating, they would look away.

Paolo wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:45 pm Let's just say that if people like Cardinal Sin are in Heaven, then I pray to God that I go to Hell ... fast.

Does that make sense?

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2007 9:02 pm Assuming there's a barracks in Hell, you take the lower and I'll take the upper bunk.

HOWEVER, if Cheney or Dubya are in the next bunk over, I KNOW we're in the wrong place.

dingbat (imported) wrote: Thu Apr 26, 2007 3:28 am Whenever the subject of abstinence and priests comes up, particuarly in light of some of the things which have been in the news in the past few years, there is always someone who says :

"You wouldn't have all these problems with paedophilic priests, If they were allowed to marry and/or have sex."

My answer to this is really very simple :

"Just who would you have a paedophile get married to?"

And, for me, that's the crux of it. Abstinence doesn't cause priests to become paedophilic or otherwise sexually deviant, if they're going to do those kind of things, they will anyway. Statistically, most sexual acts committed by adults against children are committed by straight, married men.