If banders are so terrible, why is it that I can buy one at my local farm store for $20, but they never sell Burdizzo's? The farm store also sells scalpels and rubber gloves for surgical castration of animals.

Kangan (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:46 pm If banders are so terrible, why is it that I can buy one at my local farm store for $20, but they never sell Burdizzo's? The farm store also sells scalpels and rubber gloves for surgical castration of animals.

The store by you may not sell them, but many do. Do a search for them, you'll find them on line

C van D (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:17 am Thanks to all those readers who have commented about elastration, emasculation bands or similar. If these methods cause pain then quite clearly they should be banned for use on boys.

Various contributors have heavily criticised the authors of stories in which young boys suffer castration in ways that deliberately cause suffering. I agree totally. Pleasure taken in this - or any other form of torture - is a perversion.

That is why Slammr and others are to be respected in promoting Neutersol as a means of neutralising a boy's virility in a way that is painless and non-invasive - to quote him, the boy pulls his pants up afterwards and gets on with what he was doing.

C van D

First of all, I want to say that I don't advocate castrating any kid and -- in fact -- abhor the idea of anyone being castrated against his will. I'm writing fiction and fantasy. I'm as guilty as anyone of using violent methods in my stories to castrate -- even kids; but the method used depends on the message I'm trying to get across. If I've created a world where boys are routinely castrated, I agree that it only makes sense for the method to be as painless as possible. That society apparently feels it's to its benefit -- for whatever reason -- to castrate some or most boys. It would have no reason to inflict pain on the boys; rather they're removing an unwanted -- possibly unnecessary -- appendage.

Other stories -- with other themes -- might require violent castration. Usually, when I employ such a method, I'm attempting to invoke sympathy for the kid. He's the victim, and I'm trying to demonstrate that. The kid is the hero in such stories and the castrator is the villain. I write such stories putting myself in the kid's point of view. I feel his pain, one might say. I'm the kid being castrated, never the person castrating him. I have NEVER written a story in which I imagined that it would be a turn on to castrate a kid. Instead, I'm trying to imagine what it would have been like to have been castrated then.

At fourteen, when I discovered sex, I thought about little else. I can only imagine what it would have been like to have been castrated at that age. Hell, if I wasn't jacking off, I was probably thinking about doing it. It would have devastated me to have been castrated at that age. That's why many of my heroes are that age.

I grew up in a different age from kids today. At thirteen I was completely ignorant about sex. I didn't know why my dick got hard all the time, and -- other than an obscure reference a couple of years earlier that I was too ignorant to understand at the time -- no boy had ever so much as mentioned jacking off to me.

Then, at fourteen, we moved from Texas to Kansas. In Kansas, the eight year-old down the street knew all about jacking off. It wasn't long before I learned how. Then -- WOW! -- why didn't I find out about this earlier? Shit! Look at all these years I've wasted. I went through puberty at 11, but didn't jack off the first time until I was fourteen. For that year, sex -- jacking off -- my dick -- was the most important thing in my life. Possibly I write so many stories about kids in an attempt to re-experience that time.

Anyway -- what I'm trying to say is that one has to look at the whole story, not just at the method of castration used. If anyone -- in a story or elsewhere -- advocates hurting a kid in any way, I would like to see him booted from the site. And, I don't like the reaction I have from some people to my stories, from people who are turned on by what I wrote as a tragedy.

Although the majority of my stories are written as tragedies, I have attempted to explore societies where boys are routinely castrated, as has C van D. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's happened in history. Throughout time, thousands -- probably millions -- of boys have been castrated. I think it's interesting to explore the possibility of a society where it is again commonplace, as C van D has so excellently done in his Simon series.

Has anyone used the elastrator to castrate them self?

It has been used a few times. Take my advice and Don't do it there is far more pain involved than anyof you can even come close to immagining. This goes equally for all meathods. Save your pennies and go to a qualified surgeon. I cannot stress this strongly enough DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME!!!!!!

if you doubt me read my thread

Nothing to do with castrating boys.

Your correspondent A-1 disputes that the elastrator is used for tailing lambs. When I was still fit enough to go hill-walking, I came across a piece of pasture in the West Highlands of Scotland, near Gairloch, a place where hill-sheep used to roam, and the ground was littered with these little tassels where the lambs' tails had dropped off. No sign of any other removals, though.

C van D

C van D (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:25 am Not long ago on this site I found a picture purporting to show a boy being castrated - according to the caption - by an "emasculation band".

Excuse me? THIS site?

philip1 (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:56 am It has been used a few times. Take my advice and Don't do it there is far more pain involved than anyof you can even come close to immagining. This goes equally for all meathods. Save your pennies and go to a qualified surgeon. I cannot stress this strongly enough DO NOT DO THIS AT HOME!!!!!!

if you doubt me read my thread

Of course, doing such a thing at home seems to me like an awful idea, but how about in an ER parking lot (or even in a restroom inside an ER -- flush go the testes and then check yourself in)? heheheh..

As has been discussed before, you can do this.

But you also get an ER bill, a big one, and a stay in the psych ward. Not to mention the press.

"Duck! It's the media!"

Yes, the idea of being in a local newspaper or something for doing something so silly as that kind of frightens me, but then again I really don't think that kind of publicity would bother me too much.

Though there are other ways of dealing with the press... (http://tanglog.ifacepaint.com/strangebrew2.avi)