I don't know.That's about all we can do, Paolo. We are at the mercy of the food industry.

Studlover

Another source of obesity is the obscenely huge portions that American restaurants serve. My wife and I have adopted the practice of splitting one entre between us. Not only is that sufficient for both of us but sometimes we even resort to a "doggy bag." And the wait staffs at our favorite restaurants become enthusiastic about this practice when they discover that I tip as if we had ordered two entres.

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Patient (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:31 am Another source of obesity is the obscenely huge portions that American restaurants serve.

You know, my buddy and I have been practicing this option the past year too. I was a bit shy at first but thanks to my friend's insistance on lowering my intake, its working out well. I've lost 10 lbs so far and the battle of the buldge continues.

Thanks for mentioning this practice, its good news to disseminate...

I also can't say it enough - no fast food!

No McDonald's, no Taco Bell, no Wendy's, no Burger King, etc.

I'm down to 165, btw...from about 200 just 4 weeks ago. Things seem to have stabilized in the weight loss area, too.

One of my first calorie saving practices at restaurants is telling them not to bring bread to the table. If it is within hands reach it will most likely be in my mouth. Patient's idea about splitting meals is a very good idea. I have a favorite restaurant when I am in the mood for beef because they have a 4 ounce tournado served on a parmesean crusted tomato half. Of course I skip the potatoes and enjoy grilled asparagus. I try hard to order the smallest portion or a half sandwich and salad combo.

My biggest problem is getting over the clean plater mentality. Many times I have left a restaurant in discomfort because of the drive to finish everything. Yes Sister I know children are starving in the world. I was such a skinny child that everyone encouraged me to over eat. Adults would ask me when they could get me alone if I was getting my fair share of the food at home. They wonder no longer. So for me it is not the knowledge how to lose weight it is learning how to reprogram my mind.

One interesting aspect of my personality is that when money is tight I tend to eat more. Of course cheaper foods in higher quantities. I noticed this when I was in college and I realized that when I was getting low on funds I would end up at smorgasbords. For some reason my anxiety about money would cause me to eat a lot for today because who knows what tomorrow may bring. I still have this somewhat today and that explains that pack of hot dogs in the refrigerator.

Can we reduce the fat content here a little please?

Kristoff, we need you to come to the rescue or to dictate some rules.

It's fine to agree with someone, to quote them, or to paraphrase what you intend to. The habit of cutting and pasting entire threads and then just adding"I agree" is hugely wasteful and unoriginal. If that is all you want to say just write, "I agree with Paolo" or whatever. Copying the whole post is just adding unecessary body fat to the Archive and it actually contributes zero.

Sac_mec (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:13 am Can we reduce the fat content here a little please?

Krister, we need you to come to the rescue or to dictate some rules.

It's fine to agree with someone, to quote them, or to paraphrase what you intend to. The habit of cutting and pasting entire threads and then just adding"I agree" is hugely wasteful and unoriginal. If that is all you want to say just write, "I agree with Paolo" or whatever. Copying the whole post is just adding unecessary body fat to the Archive and it actually contributes zero.

You don't have to read the part that's quoted, if you don't wish to. Note I quoted you -- no cut and paste, just clicked on "quote." You're making a big deal about nothing. Try it. You'll be surprised at how easy it is to scroll past the quotes. I don't think any intervention by Krister is needed. On some posts it's handy to have a previous post quoted so one doesn't have to go back to read that post.

Speaking personally Slammr I would prefer a lower fat weighted Archive.

The habit of "quoting" is taking over threads everywhere and usually adds nothing. Some people do use 'excerpts' and then add their perspective on that point. That is a more sensible approach. I'm not being a censor in suggesting this. It's partly insulting to the efforts of someone for a second person to print them again and it does fill the site unecessarily with repitition. Think lean, think for yourself and contribute your own text and wouldn't it be more interesting??

I'm with Sac_mec on this one. Quoting an entire long post sets a wholly unwelcome standard of indolence and thoughtlessness.

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Paolo wrote: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:42 am I also can't say it enough - no fast food!

No McDonald's, no Taco Bell, no Wendy's, no Burger King, etc.

I'm down to 165, btw...from about 200 just 4 weeks ago. Things seem to have stabilized in the weight loss area, too.

You're no fun, Paolo. See if I invite you to my "Get Fat" party this weekend!

Studlover