Thanks everyone for the advice! It's been a big help. I'll tell you what I told another kind soul who sent me a PM.

I thought I gave reasons, perhaps they weren't so clear. I do that sometimes, don't write enough. Okay, so reason number is religious reasons. Refer to Matthew 19:12: For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it." Now, to me, I take that as being literal in meaning. It clearly states that the eunuchs being spoken of are actual eunuchs, not just people who are celibate. Reason number two, I do not feel compelled to keep them. This has been something I have felt for a long time. Society feels a man is defined by his testes, his sexual prowess. I see it all the time, even if you do not agree. I feel different. I feel a man is defined by his ability to serve a higher calling, to cast aside his ambitions and his own urges and focus on a life of service. Can that be done without castration. Of course, I am no fool. Do I want to go through life, balancing out the needs of this higher service and the needs of the testes? No, I do not.

I know I have to be certain. I don't do anything without a plan, without careful thinking. If you look back at my posts, you'll note that several posters suggested I try a test run with anti-androgens like Androcur, DepoProvera, etc. I fully intend to do this. I don't know how much that stuff costs, but I would never just wake up and be castrated without giving a nonpermanent form a trial run first. It is also important to remember that I said I plan on waiting a few years for two reasons: I do not currently have the money and I would like to finish my schooling first. Even if I had the money today, I would not hop a plane to philly to see Dr. Kimmel. I know that one of the side effects of castration is short-term memory loss. I don't want my memory affected when I am still in school. I maintain a very high GPA, which is important to me beyond what words can describe. Having short-term memory loss now might have effects on my studies and I can't have that.

Okay, so here's the plan now.

1. Wait a few years to save the money and finish school.

2. After that, or maybe a little before (depending on the memory side effects), get on some anti-androgens and give chemical castration a trial run for at least 12 months, perhaps longer depending on the advice I am given.

3. After making certain, after a trial run with chemical castration and probably some religious counseling, make an appointment with someone like Dr. Kimmel and head off to get castrated.

What is it that makes, what seems to be most eunuchs here, give the sense of regret or mistake?

And I ask this with the best of sincerity. In a purely curious, scientifc kind of standpoint?

It seems the prevelant consensus. But I wonder if that still connotes a negative viewpoint? I don't know exactly how to explain myself.

Some people enjoy going on vacation, to use a metaphor. But sometimes become depressed after returning home. Is this perceived feeling of regret, for lack of a better word, because they feel they may have made a bad decission, or perhaps because they won't get to do it again? Like the vacation is over, and you don't have anything to look forward to anymore.

The process, surely is a major event. It's got to be a high point. So I wonder, like someone (and forgive me comparing it to this) having taken years to grow their hair long, and then one day deciding to cut it all off. There's got to be some sense of loss. Some degree of confusion from such a massive, instant change in one's life and appearance.

So, under those circumstances, is one just temporarily depressed? I mean, I guess, like graduateing school or college. It's a happy time, it's a sad time. It's nice that it's over, but you'll miss many friends, it's a huge change, it's a scary time, etc. It's bitter sweet.

So I wonder, s it the actual change in physiology, the hormonal change? Is it a psychological sense of loss? Sense of moving forward, beyond the line that you had ever moved ahead of you in the sand until that final decision?

Does it bother any eunuchs here that the process is in their rearview mirror, so to speak, rather than still on the horizon? That is, is anyone sorry that they don't still have the process of castration to look forward to?

Just as a heads-up, Brandon, everyone who has posted in this thread so far above THIS post, I feel, is a pretty good person and giving you sound advice. Don't hesitate to contact any of us, especially the Staff.

Please do be careful, though. Not everyone you meet online who wants to contact you right off is a nice person. I'm assuming you're NOT new to the Internet and not naive, either. Just take it at your own pace.

Sorry, it's the parental instinct at work. My oldest Godson just hit the halfway point to 19.

Also, if you start getting overwhelmed with PM's and email from users with a low post count, or don't like the tone of the messages after a polite "leave me alone", let ME know.

Paolo wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:26 am http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/memberlist.php (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/

memberlist.php)?

You can look that up with this link.

Depends on WHY you want to be castrated. I think the only reason you can be castrated so young is that you have gender dysphoria. IF so you wuld need to see a psychiatrist who specialises in Gender dysphoria. Live at least 2 years as a woman. Work 2 years as a woman. Then be able to afford the OP Very expensive in USA UK Australia. Most seem to go to Thailand its cheaper. Maybe they do castrations too for a price ?????

BUT you are too young and shoul;d not consider castration if you do not have gender dysphoria,( Only other reason would be testicular cancer)

Gender reasignment was not arround when I was your age. I would probably qualified. But definitely not afforded the op. Some become maleprostitutes Go on drugs other than hormones. That defeats my idea of what becomming or living like a woman means. Ive live as a woman for many years. Im 65 and in the process of castration. Have 3 children. You need seeveral years to make that sort of decision. Medical help. Money. Even then yopu might regret what happened.. No way back once your castated. Thats where I am at them moment. Its almost done. My testicles are dead. Just need removing in a few weeks.

maidjoanna (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2006 10:08 pm IF so you wuld need to see a psychiatrist who specialises in Gender dysphoria. Live at least 2 years as a woman...

I'm sure that Jesus can fill us in more on his findings, but from what I read in the survey results from the famous EA online survey, and some other research, one aspect of Gender Dysphoria that many fail to recognize is MtE, or "male to eunuch".

Not wanting the male hardware attached anymore isn't always a sign of MtF (male to female) desire. It would seem, right now, that there are two options for gender change - the usual MtF or FtM.

Keep in mind that someone who desires castration or even nullification isn't necessarily wanting to BE a woman.

Not that that's a bad thing...

numnuts (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2006 5:23 pm What is it that makes, what seems to be most eunuchs here, give the sense of regret or mistake?

And I ask this with the best of sincerity. In a purely curious, scientifc kind of standpoint?....

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I'm not wanting to take this thread off-topic, but this posting by Numnuts is closely related to an earlier topic that I started called "Happiness?". I too sense an occassional, post-castration "regret" comment. Fortunately for me, that has not occurred to me, at least so far.

Now, as a follow on to Brandon's postings:

I do not believe that age (or lack of, in your case), should be a major factor in the decision to castrate or not, as long as the subject is of legal age, physically able to undergo the procedure without other harm, and is mentally competent. The primary factor should be how one feels about oneself, and then coupled with a cautionary note about the non-reversible nature of a castration and the aspect of self-accountability.

I am not an expert, but it sounds like to me that Brandon fits all of those criteria that I believe are important.

Brandon86 (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 07, 2006 8:42 pm I am twenty years old. Everyone tells me that is just sooo young to make big decisions. Do you know they won't let me donate anything more than marrow right now because they don't think I can make the decision? What crap. But back to what I asked. Thanks.

Dear Brandon86,

YOU mentioned that you were young.

I just wanted to know how young. The last thing that we need here are 12 - 17 year olds seeking information and wanting castrated. CAPISH?! So, my friend, don't get your shorts in a knot and we will try to honestly and truthfully answer your questions.



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A-1,

I seem to recall YOUR shorts getting a bit tangled when you thought you'd lost your keys...

A-1 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:44 pm Dear Brandon86,

YOU mentioned that you were young.

I just wanted to know how young. The last thing that we need here are 12 - 17 year olds seeking information and wanting castrated. CAPISH?! So, my friend, don't get your shorts in a knot and we will try to honestly and truthfully answer your questions.



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I wondered that, too, so I checked his profile before replying to his post. If you had, you would have known how old he was.