bryan (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:35 pm But I believe he genuinely wants to retire from sex and having a libido, in which case he will put testosterone in the same category as poison and want nothing to do with it.

polecat (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:43 pm Well, that's not very nice. What right do you have to say someone is incurable, much less to shoot them in the back of the head? I have heard (probably biased) studies that recidivism in sex offenders is pretty high, but the vast majority of said offenders are still full of male hormones, completely intact. The mind isn't as much of a temple as you think; once desecrated, it can be purged, and it can be cleaned up. Just, don't close your own mind, because there are no absolute truths here. There is no 100% cure, and there is no 100% uncured. It's in the psyche, the playdough of our mind that is remade anew every time we wake up from sleep.

I'd like to see some of these studies on attempted cures for sex offenders that failed. Even if they're incurable, it still doesn't give you the authority to kill them. Kill things in self defense, or for food, not in outraged revenge, disgust or hate. And remember, those who do not cross lines, who do not allow others to cross lines, are often the most destructive in society. Be careful before you call it the unforgiveable crime, because many times the story is more complicated than they being monsters, and more often than you'd think it's an ethically innocent man, convicted under some heavily interpreted legal triviality. There are monsters but, there are also confused criminals in need of help.

polecat (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:43 pm Well, that's not very nice. What right do you have to say someone is incurable, much less to shoot them in the back of the head?

crash69_10940 (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:18 pm i dont care if they take his nuts he should never be let out of jail he did the crime now do the time
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SplitDik (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 01, 2005 9:17 pm ]


Word.

Molesting children is a crime not to be excused.

He's already done his time -- already 21 years in jail.

I'm pretty sure this is a pure case of a guy voluntarily being castrated to rid himself of the urges that plague his life. I'm glad he could find a doctor to do it -- too bad you have to be a sex offender to get voluntary castration. I'm sure a lot of guys who are tormented by urges to com

mit sex crimes would be willing to get preventive castration.

I wonder what would you say if it was YOUR son/daughter that was molested by a sicko like this.

Personally I would go berserk to hear him getting out of prison.

They aren't controlled by testosteron to commit sexual crimes, their will i

bruce2 (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:18 am s twisted.

aka it's not the weener that makes them commit sexual crimes, it's their psyche that is ou

t of control.

Taylor -- I understand your emotions, but some sex offenders can (and have) been cured by castration.

You seem to be missing the point billy boi, once someone touches an innocent 9 year old as a grown up, nobody cares if he is curable. At least I don't, my sausage doesn't "tell me to go screw young boys and girls". Reasonable people don't molest helpless beings, even while having their cock intact.

He has INFLICTED DAMAGE to a person that didn't really ask for his "sexuality". The damage is done, I don't give a flying feck that it can be cured. And this bloke here, has done it many times, to many people.

I understand you're trying to be good faithed but this is nonsense.

He isn't even sorry, he's just saying "oh oh I want to get rid of my fantasies" nice going jackass, how about feeling at least ONE drop of regret towards those who you have hurt. Permanently. Ah wait they don't count, only you are important so you can be "cured of your sexual fantasies". (I was mimicking the sexual offender by the way, incase someone here thinks I called him/her a jackass :p)

I come to the conclusion (about the 10000th time now) that it's not our biological makeup that tempts us to harm other humans, it's our will being weak. Of course there comes the feminists with the "every man cheats on his wife, it's in his nature to do so" (way to go with generalising every male human). Then the males reply: "oh ye? THEN EVERY FEMALE IS A BITCH! It's in their nature to spread their legs at every chancE!!" (once again, a stupid, blunt, pointless generalisation popular amongst males)

To translate these 2 statements into something that is actually valid we would say: "A man/woman whose will is weak will cheat (not only in a relationship, in any form) on his partner without a second thought." Not as high sounding but not generalising. Generalisation just proves how biased are certain males and females.

There are certain acts of ill will that are lets say, redeemable (death, is the only redemption, nice saying isn't it?), but these are TRIFLES. Like not returning a wallet you found on the street, albeit it's giving in to the evil (hmm, I could return but I can put away aaaaall the 25$ I found in it !!) it's not nearly on the same level as:

-Murdering someone.

-Molesting someone.

-Enslaving someone.

-Committing burglary.

-Committing fraud.

The list goes on

Of course, it's all down to what you consider a crime in front of humankind for me, seeking the same genders sexuality is a crime as well. (right right I'm not open minded for saying that, remember that these are just my opinions)

All these things boil down to their will being weak. Not their genitals "making them do things" . I included homosexuality as you can see. In the past I didn't bother much about them, until I discovered that a lot of catholics are gay, not to mention bishops, clerics, et cetera inside the churchs.

Now this would make no sense if the catholic religion didn't declare "living by the rules by the Bible, aye" (I'm not a catholic by the way). Anyhow the Bible isn't about things you shouldn't do, it's about Why you shouldn't do certain things.

To get to the point, the Bible states that homosexuality is the bodies guilty turn on. A popular (bulletproof apparently) comeback by homosexual people is that "I'm just loving another Person". Right, and "Person" is a gender? Since "Person" can be both female and male, why do males seek males then and females, females?

"Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

Excuse me for the point-slipping but I feel that my standing on homosexuality as it is today had to be explained(it is a magnificent example of an utterly weak will). It is not like I hate homosexual people. I just have my opinion about homosexuality, which as you can see, is not really positive. But in one thing I agree with homosexua

An Onymus (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:59 am l people, the racist like scum who go "OMG DONT BE HOMO BECAUSE ITS BAD!!!" can go away.

The worst are who try to force others to think the way they want them to think.

It's unfortunate that there isn't a way to let these types of individuals out of prison after their time has been served, but, at the same time, to keep them from having access to anybody they might harm because of their urges. I am always at a loss when anybody says he has urges he can't control, be they sexual or drug-related or simply desires to h

arm somebody. As far as I can tell, there is a conscious ability to choose between alternatives, and those who choose to do harm, simply don't want to control themselves.

I can safely assure you that the only things he is lacking are:

1. Sex (take a guess why he wants to undergo castration)

2. Free movement. (shit happens)

Food, drink, television is provided to him. Just let him "rot" (sarcasm: free food, drink, entertainment in various form) in the prison.

Addon: Saying my cock made me rape a 12 year old girl is like saying

my gun made me shoot that police officer