I'll post some of my experiences with elastrator play again. I did this before the system was hacked so some of you have alredy seen some of this. Also, let me add that I don't recommend some of this and some of it could be dangerous, it's just some of my experiences with banding.
I've had my testicles banded many times over the past 4 or 5 years. The longest I have gone is 3 to slightly over 3 hours. Most of the time it's between 1 and 2 hours with 1-1/2 hours being done the most. The first few times doing a banding, it got extremely painfull as many of you know from experience. Twenty or thirty minutes was all I could stand. Then I made a discovery. Ice water. After my balls were banded, I go and crush up some ice very small and put it into a small Tupperware container filling it up part way and then adding water. When the pain starts to get unbearable, I submerge my balls and sac into the ice water. The first time I did this I almost stopped. The pain got absolutely unbearable. I mean it hurt bad! However, after a couple of minutes the pain quickly goes down. i don't remember if the pain went away completely thie first few times I did this but I added one more thing and now the balls become 100% numb. You may be asking what I added. Salt. Just plain old table salt. This reduces the temperature of the salt water to below freezing. Don't ask me about the physics of this but I discovered it years ago by adding too much salt to a cooler full of beer and froze the beer. Anyways, the balls go completely, 100% numb this way. A person can poke at the sac with something sharp, squeeze the balls, etc. and not feel anything. However, the more a person does at this point, the sorer the balls and things will be later on after the banding.
One twist to this. Do not add too much salt! I found this out last November 2005. I think it was on the 12th of the month. I did the usual banding, this time using 2 bands. Then I mixed up the salt water/ice mixture and did the usuall thing. I did this for a couple of hours. Two anyways but I don't think I went three. Eventually I cut the bands off, did the usual jumping around for a couple of minutes from that dreaded 'snap' and then hopped into the shower. Things were obviously sore down there but the skin seemed especially sore. I found out later that I had something unexpected down there...Frostbite.
Yep, I had frozen the sac and balls too much an dfound out a day or two later as sores appeared on the sac that I had frostbite. This turned out to be a very painful experience believe me. The sores started to appear on the area of my sac that had been on the bottom side of the bands. Eventually there was basically a huge area that was a huge (relatively speaking) scab. It doesn't end here though. We all know how things move around down there when moving, walking, etc. Well, that still happened which lead to the scab(s) breaking apart and bleeding. Then the broken parts would end up adhearing to my underware. Anytime I had to pull my undies away from my body for urinating, bathing, changing, etc. would lead to pulling parts of the scabs off of the sac which lead to more bleeding, more adhearing, more tearing....I'm sure you all get the idea by now. It was he** for about two to three weeks and took about four week to heal pretty much completely. It's kind of amusing to look back now and get a chuckle but it wasn't then, except for my wife perhaps who got a few

out of it.

I will add that when I dumped the ice water/salt mixture out that day, there was salt sitting in the bottom of the container so the water was 100% saturated with the salt.
Ok, back to a few more basics. When my balls are banded and chilled, before cutting the band off I use warm water to bring everything back up to temperature. This eliminates very cold blood from all of a sudden trying to get back into circulation. I also take a couple of aspirins to possibly help thin my blood and avoid any blood clots. Does this help? I don't know but it's the way I do it. Also, to help reduce the stinging of the band snapping off, and I stress reduce, not eliminate, I will stick the entire package back into the cold water for twenty seconds or so. This helps numb the skin a bit but doesn't freeze everything again.
For removing the band I like to use a number 12 scalpel. It's the one that's bent in sort of a hook shape. It works very well. I can gently cut the band a little at a time without nicking my skin. Then when there's just a sliver of band left, I can get ready, hold my breath and just barely touch the scalpel to the band and SNAP!!! The next thing you know I'm jumping around like a drunken sailor for acouple of minutes. By using a scalpel, I can avoid having to get underneath the band like with a scissors. The scalpel is so sharp that just gentle strokes will cut the band easily.
Ok. Hopefully this isn't getting too long. I'd like to add that although banding can be and for some people like my wife and I, I'm also doing it to try and create some permanent damage which I think the banding last November did. Again, I'm not recommending this. Lately I have much less ejaculate during an orgasm and it's much clearer but not completely. SOme of this could be due to my taking small doses of estrogen daily to help reduce my libido but I've been doing that since way before last November but that's another story. My balls have shrunk up some also. I have what could be described as varicose veins when I squeeze the sac tight. The varicose veins stop where the bands were located. THey don't appear this way normally, just when slightly squeezing things. Also, there is a slight discoloration of the skin that was frostbitten. If some permanent damage was done that's great. We're still planning on my eventual castration although we've been doing that for several years now.
Let me sum it up by saying whatever you do, play safe and think things out. One thing I do is make sure I have a scalpel sitting here BEFORE the band goes on. BTW, someone mention using a lubricant before banding. I always use baby oil. Well, I hope this helps everyone and hopefully everyone got a chuckle out of parts of it. I know I can chuckle about the November incident now but I wasn't then. LOL If anyone has questions, feel free to post them here or if you want privacy feel free to send me a personal message.
Take care everyone,
Chris