I'm more than happy with 98SE. Everything works OK.

I'd have a Mac, if the rest of the University had them in all departments.

Robby (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:19 pm I have no idea why you boys are having a snit about Win XP?... Like I said, if you are playing with the "Home Edition", then you deserve to have problems.

I have been using XP Pro on 3 different PCs for a couple of years now. I have not had any of the problems you talk about. I use these machines 8-10 hours a day at work and then more time at home. I have 1 machine doing what we call production processing and it has not skipped a beat. In fact, not one of these machines has crashed or did any of the stuff you guys describe.

That makes me wonder how you have the O.S. set up, oh, I forgot, you must be running the piece of turds called "Home Edition"...

Take care,

Precisly. My XP have never crashed or anything, and it just keeps ticking day out and day in and allow me to get right to buisness without having to reboot or anything first and still have it run as fast as usuall. I confess that sometimes it does seem a wee lagging when doing lots of apps at the same time after it has been running for a long time, but I have extremly little RAM in my computer so it probably have to do alot of virtual memory disk swaping or whatever it's called to compensate.

P.S, I have always used XP "Pro" as well -- "Northern European Edition"

P.P.S, I didn't know thre was a difference between Home and Pro, just that Pro had more system admin tools I assumed. Guess it's good I went with it then..

Karisma (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2004 6:55 pm I wish Be Inc was still alive ... I long for the days of BeOS.. _that's_ what one could call an "Operating System". From power on to desktop in 5 seconds.

Good Lord, Karisma! I thought I was the only BeOS fan left alive in the whole world. Glad to see there are at least two of us still breathing.

It was a sad day when the developers decided to go commercial, and no longer support the home users. Fast, clean, easy-to-understand GUI. Had everything one needed in an operating system, in my opinion. Damn, I must be getting old and opinionated.

As for the various flavors of Windows, I have everything from Win3.1 to WinXP Pro running at one time or another, depending upon which customer is on the phone asking for help. Microsoft has definitely improved its product every step of the way, but still, lots needs to be done to eliminate all the "bloat."

I suspect the vast majority of problems blamed on WinXP are produced by inadequate RAM in the computer. While XP will run, albeit slowly, with only 256 MB of RAM, I consider 512 MB to be the absolute minimum for acceptable performance. I don't do any graphical processing on this machine, which is pretty much intended for Internet use only, and find 1 GB of RAM to be just right. RAM is cheap; don't skimp on it, guys and gals.

Shortie (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:54 pm Good Lord, Karisma! I thought I was the only BeOS fan left alive in the whole world. Glad to see there are at least two of us still breathing.

It was a sad day when the developers decided to go commercial, and no longer support the home users. Fast, clean, easy-to-understand GUI. Had everything one needed in an operating system, in my opinion. Damn, I must be getting old and opinionated.

What do ya know! Did not see that comming, what indeed a pleasant suprise! (!!)

I have not used BeOS for quite some time, basically becouse I have a real small harddrive and can not afford even 1gb not to be utilized to it's fullest so I'm forced to use XP becouse it does get the job done at thte moment -- even if I'm not happy with it's weight.

BeOS was such a breath of fresh air when it came out, especially so when the 4.x branch was released (I think it was). I mean the extreme speed of it just blew me away.

My computer had like only 64mb sdram and a cpu barly making 400mhz back then and BeOS just zipped along and every action I did happened instantly and directly with even minimal delay if the applicaion being started was real huge.

I agree, it had pretty much everything one could wish from an OS, and SO many wonderful and inovative features that most did not even know about under the hood(and that were so unheard of back in the days). I mean.. just the File-System was a revolution in and of it self, attributes/database'ish qualitites, journaling(making it possible to just flip the power switch and not shut it down "kindly" and wait forever for it to finish up which my XP does.. extremly annoying) and lots of ingenious stuff.

When was Be Inc bought up, 5 years ago or so? And still only _now_ other OSs are implementing things that BeOS _already_ had.

Imagine how extremly cool and a beast of an OS it would have been if Be inc was still alive and developed it up to this day *more drooling*...

But alas, I guess I'm just dreaming, BeOS is quite old by now and it has not seen any new innovations since it's judgement day -- even if software made by ordinary people keep streaming in every day. As if the body was dead but the brain just hadn't gotten the memo.

Perhaps i'm being nostalgic and raising it onto a pedestal, a bright memory that wouldn't hold true if I was to start using it again. But it _was_ bloody fantastic...

My hope now lies on the various forks ya know, brave souls trying to ressurect it. But I fear it will be a long time until they've managed to recrete it, and only then can the real work begin on improving it and have it once again sour the skies - like the phoenix.

____

And I agree, fast, extremly clean and uncomplicated user interface. All those I forced to install it liked it, even a die-hard Macintosh fan of a yankee loved it -- and seeing how picky those people are that's saying alot, the mac users that is.

To Be or not to Be.. I hope BeOS will Be again one day.

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