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Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:40 am
by Riverwind (imported)
So I have been told and understand there is no sound in outer space. But really guys, StarWars yes the script is a bad one, the sound effects are wrong but you gotta love it. It HOLLYWOOD what more can you expect, hell they still crash cars into other cars and explode, cars go off clifs and explode on the first hit, come on now, if your looking for truth and facts about space dont look to Hollywood. I remember growing up as a kid living down the street from Universital Studios and NBC, CBS, etc there all next to each other in North Hollywood, yes a different city. We knew as kids it was all fantacy, it was never ment to be anything else.
River
Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:40 am
by Alex20 (imported)
Faaarq!!!!
I wrote a long reply but of course the bloody internet had to un-sign me from the boards. And of course the back button don't work on the Vbulletin. I hate computers!!!!!!!!
To sum up:
-Dave (as Thomas pointed out) should be able to survive the intital decompression with only ruptured eardrums and capillaries as well as sundry other nasty shit. this is due to the fact that the decompression would not be explosive.
-Dave would be able to survive the vacuum long enough to re-pressurise the airlock, as Vacuum itself takes time to kill.
-Dave would probably not succumb to the bends, as the amount of gas that can be carried in one atmosphere of presure is quite small (and thus the amount released would be small when he goes from the one atmosphere of the ship to the zero atmospheres of space, as compared with, say, a diver going from five to one atmospheres). It also takes a while for the bends to take effect, you can see this when you open a bottle of Coke, effectivly depressurising it and giving it "the bends". The Coke takes a while to become "flat" by "bubbling off" the dissolved Carbon-Dioxide. Finally when you re-enter an atmosphere of equal pressure to the one that you left, the bubbling of Nitrogen and other gasses will immediately stop, and bubbles already in the blood will quickly start being re-absorbed (for divers this means going into a hyperbaric chamber, a big pressure chamber which raises air prssure to that underwater levels, for Dave it would simply mean entering the spacecraft and respressuising the airlock).
Hope I was still of help
Alex.
Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:07 am
by Blaise (imported)
Now, I am much more comfortable about joining the little excursion to the other planets. Even better, I am feel much better about turning off my computer.
Alex20 (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:40 am
Faaarq!!!!
I wrote a long reply but of course the bloody internet had to un-sign me from the boards. And of course the back button don't work on the Vbulletin. I hate computers!!!!!!!!
To sum up:
-Dave (as Thomas pointed out) should be able to survive the intital decompression with only ruptured eardrums and capillaries as well as sundry other nasty shit. this is due to the fact that the decompression would not be explosive.
-Dave would be able to survive the vacuum long enough to re-pressurise the airlock, as Vacuum itself takes time to kill.
-Dave would probably not succumb to the bends, as the amount of gas that can be carried in one atmosphere of presure is quite small (and thus the amount released would be small when he goes from the one atmosphere of the ship to the zero atmospheres of space, as compared with, say, a diver going from five to one atmospheres). It also takes a while for the bends to take effect, you can see this when you open a bottle of Coke, effectivly depressurising it and giving it "the bends". The Coke takes a while to become "flat" by "bubbling off" the dissolved Carbon-Dioxide. Finally when you re-enter an atmosphere of equal pressure to the one that you left, the bubbling of Nitrogen and other gasses will immediately stop, and bubbles already in the blood will quickly start being re-absorbed (for divers this means going into a hyperbaric chamber, a big pressure chamber which raises air prssure to that underwater levels, for Dave it would simply mean entering the spacecraft and respressuising the airlock).
Hope I was still of help
Alex.
Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 1:01 am
by Tomas (imported)
Blaise (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 25, 2004 11:07 am
Now, I am much more comfortable about joining the little excursion to the other planets. Even better, I am feel much better about turning off my computer.
That's good.
Uh, my computer just told me it found a fault in the "AE35 Unit" or something like that and want's me to go outside and fix it - BRB ...
Audio from computer. (
http://home.earthlink.net/~imagepool/fault.wav)
Tom
Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 6:58 pm
by A-1 (imported)
ALEX 20!
Where you been?
I have not seen you here in many moons... Heh heh heh...
I suppose that he would survive for a short time. Something like Ahnold Schwartzenegger did on MARS in Total Recall. Great movie, again, lousy science, I thought.
(Confidential to Riverwind. Before going to see a movie like Star Wars, I always get about half-drunk to get into the right frame of mind. You are right, of course, the point of such movies is not science. Like Star Trek the point is mankind, Philosophy and Sociology.)
Tomas. Just what did you do for NASA. I suspected that you were a rocket technologist, if not a scientist...

A-1

Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:07 pm
by Tomas (imported)
Heheheheh ... No, not a rocket scientist, A-1, an engineer (EE) working for the local telco, AT&T, and Bell Labs designing high-speed digital services for 25 years once I got out of the USAF (photo-electronics there). After that I had my own small company for awhile ... Currently retired.
Tom
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Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:54 am
by Alex20 (imported)
It's funny Y'know. During that whole message I never stopped to consider the fact I was bitch ing about my computer whilst commenting on 2001. "My mind's definately going Dave, I can feel it now"
As for where I've been, I've been around, just doing the evil not posting thing, and with the near-death of the penectomy boards, there hasn't been that much to interest me lately. Also I might add my plaintive cries for help and advice have been largely ignored *sniff sniff*
But with a bit of luck I'll get my ass round to posting more.
Alex.
Re: 2001 Dave's Entry without a Space Helmet
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:04 pm
by Blaise (imported)
Tomas (imported) wrote: Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:07 pm
Heheheheh ... No, not a rocket scientist, A-1, an engineer (EE) working for the local telco, AT&T, and Bell Labs designing high-speed digital services for 25 years once I got out of the USAF (photo-electronics there). After that I had my own small company for awhile ... Currently retired.
Tom
rt.gif (rocket scientist)
EE is impressive (to me). My brother is an EE. Brilliant fellow.