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Re: does it matter that it was never "fantasy"?

Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2003 11:02 pm
by sailorboy (imported)
Dear Meeunich:

I hope I spelled it correctly. Please forgive me if I didn't. As one who just susbscribed to EA in late 2002, I found your narrative most informative. All information on these posts are voluntary and if you feel that some question is an invasion of your privacy, it is your prerogative to decline to respond.

From your response, I assume that you receive many e-mails "bugging" you for information. If I'm not mistaken, I believe you have posted an e-mail site for anyone wanting more information concerning your experience. What more can anyone

do?

Best wishes to you,

Sailorboy

Re: does it matter that it was never "fantasy"?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 8:51 am
by Paolo
As Tomas so eloquently states, "attitude".
meeunuch (imported) wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:43 pm the question regarding the visit to the er is irrelevant...

Actually, it's not.

That question comes up on here, and in private email, quite a bit. In fact, it comes up so often that I copy/paste a text I use just for that. YOU have been there, and any information, including the bill or even more so - how you were treated - is very relevant to those considering it.

Some large points of it would be:

1. WHAT did you do and how?

2. How did the staff react?

3. How did they treat you and the injury?

4. Your reaction to them?

5. Cost / insurance coverage and reaction from them.

I believe that these are valid questions, and I don't understand why you OR anyone else would feel that they are not.

You say you are not into fantasy, yet when you advertise that you are into the reality, you seem put off when a question is asked. I don't understand. Of course you are going to be deluged with massive emails and PM's on the subject. And you should feel honored that someone took the time to ask something of you.

With what you have had done, and what you have been through in your own quest to eunuchism, you could be a very valuable asset to the boards here - but not with an attitude like that.

Sometimes I lay awake at night and I wonder, "Is someone going to read something on the board, without reading ALL of what's there, and go off half-popped and end up in the hospital?"

I'm a little touchy on this issue, simply because if it hadn't been for Divine Intervention, fate, karma, perfect timing - call it what you will - I was about an hour or so away from doing the exact same thing some years ago when I first discovered The Archive.

I can name at least four names from the chat we had that night, and they know who they are. I asked, and they answered. They'd been there, and if not for them, who knows what might have happened?
meeunuch (imported) wrote: Fri Apr 04, 2003 9:43 pm I would appreciate not being asked questions that lead to 10,000 useless and inconsequential questions.

Then weed out the silly questions, then, like the 3 of us who run this show do. Honestly, as if any board member who sees your posts is going to know WHICH questions to ask of you as a whole pile of questions races through his mind.

Staying and being the valuable mentor that you could be here would be a good thing, if you want to do it. Then again, if you can't understand what I'm getting at here and you're going to answer questions with remarks like those in this thread, then frankly, I could care less if the door hits you in the ass on the way out.

🙄

Re: does it matter that it was never "fantasy"?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 1:41 pm
by yankee masha (imported)
I guess heat doesn't always create light, does it? I don't think meeunuch exhibited an attitude. But it should be realized when you post something online thousands of people will read it and each one is alone at his PC. So no one is trying to swamp anyone. The recipient of the 10,000 similar questions gets stressed out and overwhelmed. All of this is natural.

But if you post a great pic of yourself that strikes a chord among the 10,000 curious maybe just compiling a list of FAQ and posting it would be the answer.

For myself I feel rudeness never works online from anyone, nor does personal criticism, and certianly neither does flaming and walking out and slamming the cyber door. If you begin something that can potentially reach millions worldwide or even hundreds, you need to be aware that you are going public.

For me my feelings about meeunuch are as sincere as to paolo, Tomas and anyone who is kind enough to share his innermost senibilities. It shows us none of us is alone. So why make remarks that are hostile, critical and angry?

There's nothing wrong with curiosity about an extremely unusual person, but that curiosity and other remarks can be couched in politeness.

And meeunuch should realize that he incites curiosity. Wasn't he curious before his surgery?

And the curious should realize that he may not want to make a career out of answering everyone's questions and has a right to back off when he is tired of it.

AND --most important -- if you know anything about eunuchs from history, they are very short tempered and do flame off out of nowhere and go out and slam the door. Like it or not a balance has been lost and they do not have the best of both worlds. Whatever the cause, eunuchs ae notoriously short fused and blow off at the most unexpected times and over the most unexpected things. The biggest problems with powerful eunuchs historically was that they did things that were unexpected and could take offense when none was intended. If you ever are able to read up on them, you'd see this is the main thing that was a liability -- they were emotionally erratic. They also combined kindness with scheming and they just don't think like men who have genitals.

Re: does it matter that it was never "fantasy"?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:29 pm
by Bboy
Look guys, everyone is welcome and appreciated on the boards here. I think we have a great place and a great group of people. Of course meeunuch's input would be valuable, but we're not going to beg anyone to stay here.

When you post you open yourself up to questions. And since meeunuch is into 'reality' I imagine Paolo's questions were probably a lot more relevant than 3/4 of the other ones meeunuch got.

That being the case, it's always meeunuch's perogative not to answer, but instead of exercising that option he went for the far less noble route of critizing and belittling the questioner. It took a lot more effort to do that than just to not answer any questions he didn't feel comfortable with.

Stay or don't stay ... I have no control over that but one's attitude online has a direct relationship to how one is treated and how much information, friendship, support, and enjoyment one gets out on a community.

Re: does it matter that it was never "fantasy"?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 6:56 pm
by yankee masha (imported)
Very well said, Bboy. Anger on a discussion board always shatters and disrupts -- especially when all one has to do is decline to answer.

Re: does it matter that it was never "fantasy"?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:06 pm
by Losethem (imported)
O.K. I can understand the points of each person that posted. Perhaps we need a link or something here to post as an FAQ. Those things that are factual could be put in. I think there are enough people here that have had it done that a reasonable FAQ could be put together that answers many of the recurring questions the newbies have.

On another note, I noticed the attitude as well. Of course I got the same attitude from meeunuch about 4-5 years ago when I wasn't ready to just jump up on a cutters table and say, "have at it." This is a VERY difficult decision for many men. I think instead of bickering and inviting questions, then saying you're not going to answer any questions we are doing a disservice to the community as a whole.

If anyone wants to put a good FAQ together, I'm willing to put some time in and ask relevant questions to get it done. I'm even willing to write it up and send it out for review to the interviewees before it's posted. Off the top of my head we could break it into four or five sections covering things from the desire (for those of us that have not done it), to fantasies, to the mechanics behind the proceedures, chemical castration, etc. I'm open for input.

This way only one person receives the information and then it is written up and reviewed by those that contributed.

Anyone have further ideas on this? It's been some years since a real good FAQ was put together for the community.

--LT

Re: does it matter that it was never "fantasy"?

Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2003 7:12 pm
by Losethem (imported)
I just posted a thread up in the comments and suggestions area to move discussion of a FAQ to. Please feel free to comment there. I'm willing to donate some time to write up the FAQ if there are people willing to help out with the facts.

--LT