I've only been checking this board every few days instead of every day, because recently I've been very busy with work. There also has been less topics discussed that interest me.

I've never posted prior to a few days when I had to add my two cents worth to the "Suicide" section, dealing with Saddam. I pointed out what happened to Hitler during WW II. You just can't keep a retired History teacher out of a good conversation.

I have found information on the Board interesting and have been thinking about posting something on the castration section due to medication I am taking, which has essentially chemically castrated me. My story seems so dull when compared to others I read!!

There seems to be less interest, I think, because the Eunuch Archive has become an advertisment/support page for Dr. Spector/Dr. Kimmel only. Every time someones asks or writes on the topic of wanting castration, the response is always to go to Philly. They are not the only solution to one's much needed castration. Risks are presented in cutting, burdizzo or elastration but one should be able to look at the risks, the excitement, the pleasure, the results,the cutter and determine what method and who they want to do the castration without the seemingly ridicule of the archive saying stupid you go to Philly. It seems to me that over the past year that every guy who has written about his needs gets the same response and that is the end of the thread. Not every guy in need wants or can afford Philly. As a result, I find that I check the archive much less and seldom respond. Castrated almost 8 years ago via the burdizzo, and elastrated my sac and nut remnants 3 years, I know that Philly is not the only way to go. Eunuch Boots

Boots,

The Archive doesn't have anything to do with Spector/Kimmel. It's people who have gone to Philly and been satisfied that respond encouraging people to go to Philly.

Certainly not all of the members here agree, especially in regards to Spector (who is not practicing anymore).

You have to understand that it's a delicate balance between discussing alternative methods of castration and not encouraging members to do anything unsafe. I don't want the Eunuch Archive on the 6 o'clock news because one of our members did something stupid they read on the boards here.

Good responses from everyone so far, I am still interested in hearing more.

I appreciate and understand your reponse. If you go back and look at your response to my response, you will find the put down that eliminates one's desire to write. Sorry to have responded just to be put down, as seems to happen so often to many writers/responders. Eunuch Boots

Boots,

I did go back and re-read my response and I am not sure what the put down was. Maybe you can quote the part you found offensive?

My point was that it's just plain old every day members that talk about Spector etc.

Short of telling them they can't speak about their own experiences I am not sure what I can do.

I was telling why I think there is less interest which is my undebately feeling and the response was YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND which is the same as saying stupid you, you do not get it and thus the put down. But if you and most of your always responders do not see that, then I would predict that there will be little or no change in interest. Sorry for telling you how I feel as perhaps that is not what the archive wants. Eunuch Boots

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Boots (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2003 6:35 am Every time someones asks or writes on the topic of wanting castration, the response is always to go to Philly. They are not the only solution to one's much needed castration. Risks are presented in cutting, burdizzo or elastration but one should be able to look at the risks, the excitement, the pleasure, the results,the cutter and determine what method and who they want to do the castration without the seemingly ridicule of the archive saying stupid you go to Philly.

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Maybe you have a point, most posts recommend either going to see Dr. Kimmel or going to Thailand. Maybe if you responded to these posts with info on other methods of castration, stating both the positive and negative adventages and disadventages, there would be a greater balance between amateur and professional castration on the message board. Most posts on the archive dealing with amateur castration tend to end badly, and that is probably why most posts recommend going to a professional, maybe by sharing your experiences, advice and techniques of castration you will give other wannabes a greater understanding of the difference choices they have at hand.

All the best,

Leon

Hey boots! Where you been?

talula

Boots, two points here...

First, I think you have a good point about the posts being a bit more pro-Philly than would make sense for a non-commercial board. I'll say more about that below.

Second, I do think you might be reading a bit more into the response than was intended. The response didn't do much more than acknowledge your point and then quickly point out a possible explanation, but I can see how you could read it as being dismissive. (Don't infer a hostility that's not there. It's too easy to get your nose bent out of shape, in today's world, by doing that. God knows, it's a failing of mine.)

Now, about Philly and all that..

I've been a bit surprised at the Spector-fest, myself. I agree with BBoy that people often point a newbie/unknown to a professional because most amateur attempts at this end up going poorly or end up in the newspaper (or a psych ward in a hospital).

It seems to me, however, that Spector was/is a "surgical castration is the one size that fits all" practitioner. There are others out there who would refute that mindset, having excellent luck with testosterone-killing medicines, clamps, and fantasy-not-reality lives.

I admit it: I've been a fence-sitter for far longer than most cutters would have patience for. I *have* to know, in my mind, that I won't immediately be suicidal before taking such a step. (That's just me, but I know *me* better than anyone else.) A practitioner who had the rep of Spector (who has his share of controvery in the form of rumors and innuendo about poor procedure/followup) might not pay attention to that part of my psyche, to my long-term detriment.

Summary: yeah, you have a point.