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Re: Pending War
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 3:08 am
by TomTom (imported)
As a Veteran i believe we must get rid of Sadam Hussein,he is a tyrant who murders his own people so i just can imagine what he will do to us. Smallpox,vx nerve gas,and other goodies.
Also let us not forget reisin for which there is no cure.

Re: Pending War
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 8:22 am
by Leon (imported)
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So do I but it is the way America and my own beloved Britian is going about it that I disagree with you. If anyone read the Disinformation website there was an interesting article about some of the chemical weapons Bush has instore for Iraq and how they are just as bad as Iraq's... the obvious poke I was about to make is plainly obvious so I leave it at that.
Best Wishes
Leon
Re: Pending War
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 4:47 pm
by Dave (imported)
For a couple years while Clinton was President, I worked on pieces of stuff we used for the Kyoto climate change treaty. It was and is a very complex piece of work. I am certain that "W" Bush's rejection of it was received as a piece of work by a spiteful child. Quite Frankly, I don't understand the anti-environmental nature of conservative republicans because all that stuff is so good for business and creating businesses.
Then he just decided that we should have a anti-missle defense system and junked one of the foundations of the cold war and anti-proliferation.
Now he takes this cowboy attitide against Iraq and is like a little spoiled brat, screaming and yelling that he wants his way. He's the most inarticulate politician I know. We decry the education system as poor and yet, our idiot of a preseident thinks it's fun to mispronounce words and use colloquilisms to communicate STate and Diplomatic affairs. This is the UGLY AMERICAN image taken to extreme. And I am ashamed of it.
It is the flimsiest of reasons to build a war effort on. It is after-all just his ego.
Don't get me wrong, I think the world would be better off without Saddam Hussein, and I think that Hussein is guilty of what Bush and Colin Powell accuse him of. And if I were president, I might have played the cards the same way because the show of immenent force has put inspectors back into IRAQ. However, Ithink this could have been accomplished without harrassing the rest of the world, including most of our friends.
I just think that this president is the wrong president for world affairs. The real damage will occur years later when the conservative court members start overturning social reforms.
Re: Pending War
Posted: Wed Feb 19, 2003 7:42 pm
by Losethem (imported)
In reference to my previous post above... and you all thought I was a bedwetting liberal. Normally I am, but on this issue I <cringe> stand with our "president".
Re: Pending War
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 9:00 am
by Riverwind (imported)
OK, time to post again,
Yes Saddam should be taken out, he is a bad man, so is Castro, (Bay of Pigs). We did that one with a lot smarter people in the White House and it accomplished what?
I keep looking for the real reason this president is doing this and pushing it, I think I have the answer.
OIL
Have you checked the price of gas in the last week or so and we are not even into the summer peek season yet.
OIL = Oil barons = Bush ?
OK let me play devils advocate here, Bush is for the environment right? Wrong, he is or has opened up new oil fields in Alaska.
I think the problem is even simpler than that.
Economy, look at it, its in shambles. In the past, Presidents have come up with plans to stimulate the economy both Democrats and Republicans. What plan has Bush put up?
Is this guy as stupid as we all think he is or is he a crafty little sob that has a goal that is his and his alone, like the card shark that shows you one hand while stabbing you with the other. I guess I feel like I have been flimflammed.
I dont have the answer, hell I am not sure what the question is, do you?
As for me, no I am not going to buy a gas mask but I think I will take my family out for sushi.
River
Re: Pending War
Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2003 12:20 pm
by A-1 (imported)
take a look at this...

A-1

Re: Pending War
Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2003 1:13 am
by sag111 (imported)
Stop and think what kind of a problem we would have if Saddam was alowed to controal the middle east and he tried that in the last war.Or think about a ship of his with a nuke aboard going off in New York harber i think it is somthing we have to wory about with thies kind of people after all this is one of his dreames.Another thing is if we back down now no nation would beleave or trust us again
Re: Pending War
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 12:46 am
by sag111 (imported)
It is all about politices .France has a contract to get oil out of Iraq as soon as shanctions are lifted so thay do not want Iraq free.Russia is owed billions by Iraq so thay do not want Iraq free.The president of Germany ran a campain against the usa and won the presidentsy so how are we going to get all the nations behind us when so many countries have a diffrent stake in so many diffrent outcomes By the way i dont want to see a war any more than Iraq dose but i also can see no other way at this time and may GOD be with this country.
Re: Pending War
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:44 am
by Riverwind (imported)
How True,
Back to my earlier post.
This war is not about weapons, its OIL
Comments?
Re: Pending War
Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:18 pm
by radar (imported)
[BThis war is not about weapons, its OIL[/B] Of course it's about oil, but not about Bush-as-oilman, as the left is trying to assert. It's about finding an excuse to put someone in power in a major oil-producing nation who will be friendlier to the West, thus assuring that anti-Western Islamic fundamentalists are not in a position to strangle the West via control of its energy supply. We used to have the Shah of Iran and we lost him, with no end of complications as a result. Seems to me this is just an attempt to re-create him in a more convenient country.
Much as we may not like it, going to war in defense of one's economic interests isn't exactly unheard-of.