it's worth the attempt to start production. If that doesn't work, maybe I can use a patch. Because I'm doing six month interval prostate checkup, I believe this is worth the chance it might work.

If it fails to start up again, there are a couple of different mixes of drugs that have been tried to jumpstart the production again. I ran across it in a medical journal. The formula had been used with some sucuess with bodybuilders that had knocked out their natural production.

It's very worth in IMHO, but then of course I've been on HRT for a number of years. My lost of Test was due to Chemo not the removal of my nads, that came later (besides they didn't work anyway) hehe

I am much happier with HRT than I was without normal lvls of Test. I understand that many find a calm feeling, for me it was anything but. I only got a calm feeling when I went on HRT.

I feel more relaxed on testosterone. I don't buy that testosterone causes men to be violent or agitates us.

If you sift though the medical litature, you'll see references to just that. For me personally without test, I have mood swings ranging from rage (at things that normally don't bother me) to depression so severe that I don't get out of bed. I have great trouble sleeping, some nights I am so amped up that I don't sleep at all. I'm irritable all the time, it's not a pretty picture.

The first time I took the shot about 45 minutes later I felt this great sense of well being, and felt like my old self again (before my chemo kill off my test production). They talk about roid rage, but that is usually associated with bodybuilders who take not only test in very large amounts along with several other steriod analogs.

Most urologist know about this but it's one of those urban ledgends that seems to have a life of it's own.

Testosterone is an emotional stabilizer, I've heard.

It does have that effect especally in men with low or absent test production. Myself I feel much better with normal replacemt than I do off. I know that many eunuchs say that are calm and feel much better without the test. I don't find that for myself. But then people are different

sdstudbtm (imported) wrote: Sat Jan 11, 2003 10:40 pm It does have that effect especally in men with low or absent test production. Myself I feel much better with normal replacemt than I do off. I know that many eunuchs say that are calm and feel much better without the test. I don't find that for myself. But then people are different

Indeed we are. I think some of it may have to do with how you were functioning on testosterone before the T-levels went down. Those of us with libido problems feel better without the T, and those who felt normal will feel the loss of the T.

In my youth, I masturbated daily. The ejaculations were calming and fulfilling.

Well in my youth I jacked off usuallly 4 or 5 times a day. By the time I lost my Test I was down to 1 or 2 times a day plus having sex with my partner. I don't feel that I had any libo problems, seems mine worked just fine :tongueout

Andrew (imported) wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2003 5:53 am Indeed we are. I think some of it may have to do with how you were functioning on testosterone before the T-levels went down. Those of us with libido problems feel better without the T, and those who felt normal will feel the loss of the T.

I think that for most men, T is beneficial. BUT, in my case... I'm naturally hypogonadal (less than 10 ng/dl of T) and always have been, so my brain really isn't wired to deal with it.

About 9 years ago, I went to an endocrinologist about my T level, and that's when it was diagnosed at the level mentioned above. He prescribed replacement T for me, and to start me off he gave me an injection of about 1/3 normal amount in the office ("start it off slow"). I left the office and didn't get more than a few blocks away before I got violently ill, feeling flushed, sweating, trembling and full of rage. I don't know how I made it home, but I spent the next day and a half like this, including vomiting and a libido that was so out of control as to be physically painful. It got better, but I was still suffering aftereffects for almost a week, including discoloration and soreness at the injection site.

When I returned to the endo's office and told him what had happened, he admitted to me that a small percentage of hypogonadal men react badly to T, and I was unlucky enough to be one of them.