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Re: Concerned

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 6:28 am
by Scottie (imported)
Dear Andrew: Right now I am not taking anything. I weened myself gradually off the androcar and have not had any of that for 2 days now. I will be discussing testosterone with my Doc but , I don't know what his suggestions will be. I really want to wait until after the actual removal before I re-consider any hormones of any kind. The premarin was an experience and fuled sexuality even though it was directed more at my body and more at self development then anything else. It was stimulating but in a different way. I know about the testosterone, but we will see. Maybe a very small dose after surgery. Thankyou for your advise and help. Scottie

Re: Concerned

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2002 3:05 pm
by Andrew (imported)
Scottie (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2002 6:28 am Dear Andrew: Right now I am not taking anything. I weened myself gradually off the androcar and have not had any of that for 2 days now. I will be discussing testosterone with my Doc but , I don't know what his suggestions will be. I really want to wait until after the actual removal before I re-consider any hormones of any kind. The premarin was an experience and fuled sexuality even though it was directed more at my body and more at self development then anything else. It was stimulating but in a different way. I know about the testosterone, but we will see. Maybe a very small dose after surgery. Thankyou for your advise and help. Scottie

Whatever his opinion may be, your Doctor's suggestions as to HRT are just that. Suggestions. You have the right to say "no" to both estrogen and testosterone. My own suggestion wiould be to do just that, but that is just my own suggestion.

I suppose this is a good time for you to re-read what my friend Jeff had to say on the subject. He used to be Dr. Spector's assisstent.

@@@@@HORMONE REPLACEMENT

By Jeff Adams

The Pros and Cons of Hormone Replacement Therapy

The American Medical Association Encyclopedia of Medicine defines Hormone Replacement Therapy as: “The use of a synthetic or natural hormone to treat a hormone deficiency…”

The hormone Testosterone is greatly reduced in the blood of a Eunuch after castration. The remaining sex hormones in the body are produced by the adrenal glands and are only about 5% of the pre-castration level in an adult. Some Eunuchs choose Hormone Replacement Therapy after their surgery. Either the male hormone testosterone or the female hormone estrogen can be used.

Testosterone – Pros: Testosterone has the benefit of increasing the bone and muscle mass in an adult, as well as providing a strong libido. The male hormone also provides greater stamina and maintains male secondary sexual characteristics.

Testosterone – Cons: Testosterone has been linked to the advancement of bone and prostate cancer. It causes male pattern baldness and is known to increase male aggressiveness. It has been suggested that testosterone is the reason males live on average 10 to 15 years shorter lives than Women and Eunuchs.

Estrogen – Pros: Estrogen has the benefit of maintaining some libido, although diminished for an adult male. It also maintains bone mass and may prevent osteoporosis. Lower levels cause no or very little feminization of the body. Higher levels can cause moderate increase in breast size and body shape.

Estrogen – Cons: This is a female hormone being taken by a relatively male body. The changes in attitude and feeling for the non-transgendered may not be acceptable. Estrogen, however, is a far milder hormone than testosterone and causes fewer negative health effects. All HRT must be monitored (testosterone or estrogen) because they may both cause some liver damage. HRT should always be monitored by a doctor.

General HRT Pros and Cons: In general there are three camps on HRT. Transsexuals need HRT in order to modify their bodies to become female. Eunuchs are split into two. The Eunuch who wishes to maintain some or all of his sexuality would most likely use Testosterone. He would be as normal as any adult male in appearance and feeling, and subject to all male ills associated with this hormone. He may also choose to use estrogen. Again, there are few negatives to estrogen. This would stop most health problems associated with no HRT.

Finally – No HRT

Pros: If you choose not to take HRT, you will develop to varying degrees (depending on age of castration) certain features. Your skin will become softer, the hair as well. You will develop the “eunuch calm”, an indescribable feeling of peace and calm.

Cons: You may gain weight (10 to 50 pounds depending upon your metabolism). You will also be at a greater risk for osteoporosis and should take regular calcium supplements for life (1,500 mg per day).

This page is presented to give some information and get people thinking. I personally advocate no HRT (but that is just my opinion for me). For more information, contact your family doctor.

Re: Concerned

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 8:16 am
by Scottie (imported)
Well just got my test results back from the doc. tetosterone is 14 points out of 400. My psa is .03. Then the rest of the tests looked good except.... There is a elevated level of Prolactin in my brain. 19.9 This might be from the premarin, or even the depo-provera, but Im not sure. Whit count is elevated at 11.26, but for me that doesent seem to be out of wack. Platelets are also a bit high at 520. thik that this may be due to the androcur which I stopped 3 days ago. The doc suggestted androgen gel. Take it as I want. I dont think it does much anyway and Im taking andrews advice and just giving it all a rest. The important thing is this.... If by stopping the androcur, my testosterone levels go up, then the Doc will only think it is from the gel . I didin't want him to even suspect that my testicles might be functioning. there is good blood flow to one, and about 20 percent to the other. So Im having my surgery as planned . If anyone knows about those readings please let me know. The collective wisdom here is fantastic!!!! Thanks everyone Thanks Andrew. Scottie

Re: Concerned

Posted: Thu Dec 05, 2002 1:53 pm
by Blaise (imported)
The post is helpful as are most all of your posts. I'm going to try the testosterone injections. A urologist will monitor my prostate. If I feel more aggressive, I'll run for public office!

I have gained a lot of weight during the past few years. Before medication, I was for most of my life trim and fit but not always.

If I stop using the medication for depression for three days, my libido begins to return. The link seems fairly clear. :)