In fact, on any site where you intend to post your message or comments, they ask you to register (at least you need to provide your email).

Valery_V (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:52 pm In fact, on any site where you intend to post your message or comments, they ask you to register (at least you need to provide your email).

As I said previously, I respect the moderator's decision, even though I disagree... Note that I have never had an issue with needing to register in order to post messages / comments, I expect that on any website.... BTW I did not think the registration here was overly obnoxious in what was required.

I just don't like the idea of having to register in order to READ content... I have had many times where I've gone to a site that looked potentially interesting and decided that it wasn't what I was looking for... I've also had a few where I quickly decided I wanted nothing to do with a site, and was very glad that I did NOT register... And these were sites on topics that weren't particularly sensitive....

When a site wants me to register before doing anything else, including exploring what it has to offer, I get really suspicious about what their REAL reasons for wanting my info... Are they marketers? Are they some sort of scam artists? and so on.... They may be totally legit like EA is, but how do you tell?

I could easily imagine, given the topic that would bring folks here, having some bad actors having a site that pretended to be about eunuchs, but used the information collected for nefarious reasons - blackmail, physical or other harassment, targeting folks that registered w/ physical violence, or ???

Consider the readers of the article Paolo mentioned above - I could imagine one of them setting up such a site, considering it a good deed to sniff out us "nasty perverts" and do something about them before we got to corrupt their precious offspring <sarcasm intentional> If all you see is a request for registration, how can you that sort of site from a legitimate one....

Perhaps I'm overly paranoid, but....

WheelyCurious

I have not read and do not intend to read the said article, which is clearly unfair and offensive. It's outrageous that this happens sometimes!

The EA website performs a medical psychotherapeutic function, helps to maintain the mental health of people, as it allows them to express their doubts, anxieties, and then receive verbal support from their spiritually close friends.

What you're dealing with when dealing with people like her, is that

1. She's writing for a hack, online publication. This is what it specializes in... Look at the freaks type content, and they claim they are railing against it to protect children.

2. In the latest hatchet piece she wrote, she had to dig back 18 years to find something to wrap around people's necks, and at that the authorities were successful in arresting, prosecuting, and jailing the person who was doing bad things.

3. That the person she chose to write about had been here 18 YEARS AGO is of no interest, to her. 18 years, 18 minutes... it doesn't matter we should be tarred and feathered now because of things nearly 2 decades ago. Because clearly in that time we've learned nothing about working to identify underage people and kick them out, moderate out content which is actually harmful, and otherwise work to keep information factual and related to purpose.

4. Note she only ever attacks the EA. She hasn't attacked other places people gather related to this subject, just the EA.

5. EA only advocates for safe, sane, and legitimate procedures performed by licensed professionals, with a review by therapists, yet that NEVER makes it into whatever she writes. She cherry picks EVERYTHING to suit an agenda.

6. People like her want no space for anything to like this to exist period. These are the same people that feel so trod upon if you find anything they wish to do illogical or distasteful. Basically she's part of the, "Do as I say, not as I do..." or "Rules for thee, but not for me..." crowd.

Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:18 am Isn't that one reason why we have those wonderful volunteers called moderators reviewing posts?

Are you volunteering? Be careful what you wish for.

What really upsets me is the hysteria over the belief that we want to transgender (as a verb) any child that we can get our hands on. Or, perhaps, that we believe that castration or transition (to any gender but male) is the best thing for a natal boy. And of course, the tired old cliche that anyone who isn't a heterosexual male that married his cousin and had 2 kids by the time he was a Sophomore in high school is a pedophile.

Maybe that's a Midwest thing? Apologies to those who didn't marry their own cousin!

It seems that when "someone" finds something that they don't understand, without fail, they will form a group of like-minded people to set out to destroy said thing.

"Castration fetishists", we are called in these articles.

Well, if a study is researching the possibility of, and trying to prove, that there is indeed a "male to eunuch gender" mindset out there, where else are you going to find said members? Chances are, if you're not surveying a forum especially aimed at said people, chances are that you won't find any!

Simple logic, however, escapes these people.

Are there fetishists out there? Are there some here? Of course they are. "Fetish" is a very encompassing term, after all.

It's my belief, however, that if this forum prevents even one person from making a huge mistake and (at some point) ending up dead, well, then it's all been worth it.

As the old saying goes, "Haters gonna hate," and they will - no matter what any of us do.

WheelyCurious wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 9:20 pm When a site wants me to register before doing anything else, including exploring what it has to offer, I get really suspicious about what their REAL reasons for wanting my info... Are they marketers? Are they some sort of scam artists? and so on....

I could easily imagine, given the topic that would bring folks here, having some bad actors having a site that pretended to be about eunuchs, but used the information collected for nefarious reasons - blackmail, physical or other harassment, targeting folks that registered w/ physical violence, or ???

Consider the readers of the article Paolo mentioned above - I could imagine one of them setting up such a site, considering it a good deed to sniff out us "nasty perverts" and do something about them before we got to corrupt their precious offspring <sarcasm intentional> If all you see is a request for registration, how can you that sort of site from a legitimate one....

Perhaps I'm overly paranoid, but....

WheelyCurious

I share your paranoia and that's why this is my first post. But I do agree with registering since it seems to have almost eliminated some from people with only one post. When I was registered some years ago I remember reading a number of post from "guest" that made me doubt their sincerity. Or maybe "guest" was just a way to keep the comments for members that left the scene.

Paolo wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 4:25 pm As recently as July, another new hit piece by "She Who Must Not Be Named" appeared online, further slandering Jesus A., Kristoff, Prof. Wassersugg, and basically anyone associated with the Archive.

I did find a lot of negative items online about EA when I was trying to determine if the site had been hijacked before I re-registered. That really made me go ahead and register, even with the triangle with the exclamation point.

Paolo wrote: Sun Aug 27, 2023 11:43 am What really upsets me is the hysteria over the belief that we want to transgender (as a verb) any child that we can get our hands on. Or, perhaps, that we believe that castration or transition (to any gender but male) is the best thing for a natal boy. And of course, the tired old cliche that anyone who isn't a heterosexual male that married his cousin and had 2 kids by the time he was a Sophomore in high school is a pedophile.

True that we don't want to do these sorts of things, but then again reading the "story section" one could easily get a VERY different impression... (YES, I know it's fiction...) I haven't done a count, but it has always seemed to me that the majority seem like the 'hero'(s) are often minors, most aren't volunteers, and frequently there is forced sex...

Granted that going through the SOC v.8 process and hospital procedure is not going to make for a very thrilling tale, it is still what we get for submissions... I remember the paper that Jesus and friends wrote that reached much the same conclusion, although commenting that binary TG fiction showed a pattern of getting more 'legitimate' as it became more accepted. The paper speculated that eunuch fiction might show a similar pattern....

Either way, I just don't think a registration requirement does that much to stop the haters that are looking for dirt - how hard is it to lie on the form enough to get 'approved' and then simply not post? Obviously if they start posting hate, then the mods can and ban.... (and obviously the WayBack Machine doesn't require it)

WheelyCurious

And our favorite haters even have a video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS8ZfFZ-Bc0

The comments are pretty out too (I didn't watch the thing)..