Welcome, and

WheelyCurious wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:18 pm I hope we can help you find the information you need

and get to your goals.

I can certainly understand that this isn't an easy topic to talk about, but feel free as you aren't going to find a crowd more willing to talk about this topic, as it's why all of us are here... Some are only here because of a fantasy interest, but most of us are here because we either want to be, or have been castrated for a wide range of reasons, but we are all at some point on the same journey. You are WELCOME HERE!

Unfortunately there has lately been a lot of politics going on about this topic, and I don't know how that effects things in your state, but there are options for travel that wouldn't be to bad, however in much of the US is relatively easy to get the appropriate care. Most US insurance will even cover some or all of the costs involved.

What I'd suggest as a starting point is reaching out to your local trans-gender clinic, especially if you can find one associated with one of your area hospitals. They are the experts on all things gender related, not just people wanting to do M <> F transitions. Technically, desiring castration puts you in the 'trans' category, and the latest version of the WPATH 'Standards of Care' (version 8) now has a chapter specifically on people like us. For what it's worth, I was one of the early people to follow the SOC v.8 process and got fixed last September - it was time consuming, but not that difficult. Since you have physical trauma, that may speed up the process. If nothing else, the TG centers will be able to help you find doctors that are willing to provide the appropriate care without trying to discourage you. (They WILL want to be sure you are well informed about the consequences, but as a researcher you shouldn't have a lot of trouble with that)

If you follow the threads you will see a lot of discussion about various DIY methods, most of which have a lot of major risks and problems, but used to be almost the only option. These days, especially in the US, there does not seem to be any good reason to consider them, as the SOC v.8 process allows one to follow a medically safe route.

Good luck on your journey....

WheelyFixed

I appreciate your suggestions Wheely. I’ll read up on SOC v.8. The presentation of a “Eunuch” as a gender identity and not merely a physically defined condition is new to me and very interesting

I’m dealing with my own situation slowly and carefully. I’m using vitex and Reishi mushroom now, about to try black cocosh and saw palmetto. I think that lowering my testosterone helps reduce my overall pain and inflammation level, to an extent.

I am very cautious with pharmaceuticals, I’m really a naturopath, but not too rigid. In any case it will take long long consideration before I would try chemical castration. I am pretty sure I would not want any HRT beyond what is medically necessary if I were castrated. I have read that herbs and nutrition can mitigate osteoporosis etc.

What I am going to try to do soon is get an ultrasound to see the extent of the damage, a big decision factor...

Conrad73 (imported) wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:40 pm I appreciate your suggestions Wheely. I’ll read up on SOC v.8. The presentation of a “Eunuch” as a gender identity and not merely a physically defined condition is new to me and very interesting…

I’m dealing with my own situation slowly and carefully. I’m using vitex and Reishi mushroom now, about to try black cocosh and saw palmetto. I think that lowering my testosterone helps reduce my overall pain and inflammation level, to an extent.

I am very cautious with pharmaceuticals, I’m really a naturopath, but not too rigid. In any case it will take long long consideration before I would try chemical castration. I am pretty sure I would not want any HRT beyond what is medically necessary if I were castrated. I have read that herbs and nutrition can mitigate osteoporosis etc.

What I am going to try to do soon is get an ultrasound to see the extent of the damage, a big decision factor...

The SOC v.8 is a free download from the WPATH website, so easy to see it. BTW many of the members here were involved in writing the eunuch chapter.... I'd also say that it is quite possible to be a eunuch without any change to how you 'present'... Once I'm dressed there isn't anything that says I'm anything other than a typical hetero male, and the only people outside of my medical care team that know is my long time girlfriend and the folks here...

I haven't heard of people using reishi as an anti-androgen, though I know some that have used it very successfully to treat cancer, and it definitely has other health benefits.

In general, what most here seem to have found is that the various herbal and other natural products seem to have only limited effect unless taken in very large quantity, but it's definitely a "Your Mileage Will Vary" thing... Hormone replacement is also a topic all by itself, so I won't go into it here.

WheelyFixed

Reishi (as well a green tea) have compounds that prevent testosterone from converting to dht, so it does not lower T at the end of the day. Vitex does lower T to a very small extent, I think it works better for people with high T to begin with. I think that the power of thinking like a eunuch cannot be underestimated. I try to just put sex out of my mind, as much as I can.

Conrad73 (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 24, 2024 6:42 am Reishi (as well a green tea) have compounds that prevent testosterone from converting to dht, so it does not lower T at the end of the day. Vitex does lower T to a very small extent, I think it works better for people with high T to begin with. I think that the power of thinking like a eunuch cannot be underestimated. I try to just put sex out of my mind, as much as I can.

I tried to keep it out of my mind for years - mostly didn't succeed, but now it's a whole lot easier Of course now every time I hear about some celebrity or politician getting in trouble because he couldn't keep his where it belonged, I want to say "There's a FIX for that...."

WheelyFixed

Hi Don Carlos,Welcome to the site. You seem already to have found (as I have) friendly folks willing to engage and share their thoughts. There are no bad questions here. Cheers,TT

Bit of an update. I found a urologist here in the UK who included orchiectomy in his list of procedures. I arranged a 30 min video consultation with him. He listened to my story and (quite rightly) pointed out the side effects of an orchy (which are well documented on this site). He suggested I have my testosterone levels checked thinking my desire may arise from high T levels. He also suggested I start with a psychologist. Surprisingly my T level turned out to be 8.8 u/mol, which is towards the bottom end of normal for a 64 y/o. This was an NHS test - an earlier home test gave a reading of 5.9 u/mol.

This gets me thinking that as my T levels are already low, if my T level was reduced to near zero might I experience less side effects vs my current state? The low T level makes sense as I've struggled with my weight all my life despite being very fit when younger, and that weight has tended to be on my chest and hips. Even at my fittest and lightest I still had noticeable breasts and "handlebars" on my hips.

So, I do plan to find a suitable psychologist and maybe that will prove to be the answer. However, the option of an orchy is still there as plan "B". As previously mentioned I would start with a period of Siterone (6 months min) to explore the likely side effects for me.

I was voluntarily castrated several years ago. I now have a wonderful calm. I wish I’d done it much sooner