'Throwing' a fertility test

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

I'm thinking it would have to be a very good friend to do this for you. However, if you have a buddy who has had a vasectomy, you could either get him to provide a sample and bring it in your pocket or just sneak his condom out of his trash can in the bathroom.

At 32 years old, magusuki89 can easily get his own vasectomy.

[magusuk89 (imported)]

You have nearly all of the possible causes of the lesions in that 21 year old man s testicle that are discussed in that article ! What do your drs say when you show them this professional medical journal article that lists Crohn s, intermittant torsions, and auto immune as all being possible gonad damaging conditions ? How many do you need to have before they will castrate you ?

I know you rejected doing an orchiopexy, sewing the testicles into the scrotum to prevent twisting on the spermatic cords. But the worst that an orchiopexy could do, causing chronic pain, auto immune reactions, removal of some scrotal organs such as the tunica muscles, and death of the gonads, you already are facing. So, why not give orchiopexy a try ? Even the most radical scrotum stripping orchiopexy is less destructive than fully castrating you.

Because I don't want to. Every single guy I have spoken to who had an orchidopexy regrets it. Every single guy I have spoken to who had an orchidectomy is cool with it on the physical level. Also, at this stage there are papers that show that re sympathetic orchidopathy 'once you pop you can't stop', and frankly the organs are psychologically traumatising after a year and three quarters of searing pain.

[magusuk89 (imported)]

At 32 years old, magusuki89 can easily get his own vasectomy.

This would be true were I not under a urology department because of the current crisis. This makes it impossible to get treatment elsewhere in the UK because they would defer to 'the leading team'. The UK is like a dictatorship when it comes to healthcare.

So, I will have to continue negotiating with the urologists. Last position was they said my refusing their mesh solution was self-abuse (regarding the ongoing torsions), so they wouldn't countenance a vasectomy and denervation without also doing the orchidopexy, because they understand that from my perspective it would be a ruse to advance to orchidectomy.

They keep passing me from hospital to hospital trying to have a go at bullying me, and feeding me hope that other hospitals might have a clinical pathway for orchidectomy.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

Yes, understood. Once many of these things are triggered, stopping the torsions might not stop what the torsions went on and then triggered in other organs.

I ve talked with men who had orchiopexies at different ages, as young as early teens. Some went on to have kids and did great with sewn balls after orchiopexies.

What would be the downside for you of trying an orchiopexy before doing a full castration ? Your sperm testis barrier is clearly already breached by your torsions. I m dealing with that myself. I rejected doing any orchiopexy on my balls because each dr had a different method of doing an orchiopexy but all of them did huge damage to most of the scrotal contents by either intentionallty removing it, or as calateral damage from the surgery.

[magusuk89 (imported)]

Well firstly whatever I have I will have to pay for, as the NHS is so overwhelmed by Covid that waiting lists are running into years, and the situation I have I view as urgent. So multiplying procedures is unaffordable. I would rather keep my finances whole to go to the USA if I have to. I reckon I can afford around £10,000 GBP. A private pexy plus denervation etc is going to be £7000, and at Harley Street that was what I paid for orchidectomy before they cancelled and refunded me (politics)... which if I did both in the long run would be at least £14,000 plus twice the anaesthesia, twice the risk, more disruption to work etc.

Secondly, I want to keep the scrotum as undamaged as possible.

Thirdly, they have outright admitted that if the balls are immobilised, and the nerves are gone so I can't feel anything, there is nothing I could do to make anyone in the UK take on my case because I couldn't "detect"/report symptoms short of a large tumour. So they said it would shut me up. They are not interested in curing/helping me, they are interested in making the kind of case they don't like go away.

[cutnbulls2ox (imported)]

Man, what a trap to shut you up and leave you with auto immune problems until your immune system destroyed your balls slowly and painfully. I d be talking to animal vets quietly to get castrated if I was in your position.

[magusuk89 (imported)]

Man, what a trap to shut you up and leave you with auto immune problems until your immune system destroyed your balls slowly and painfully. I d be talking to animal vets quietly to get castrated if I was in your position.

If anybody of good standing presented themselves to me with their qualifications and operating theatre, I would happily cross their palm with gold. But I wouldn't want to insult someone in that professional position by cold-calling them with a bribe. As for cutters, it's a no-go for me. Doing something off the books, cocking a snook at the GMC, the tax man or whoever, I would do (to do what I have to do to survive), but that would be an exception to the rules rather than operating outside of a routine clinical environment.

Regarding vets, in this country they are allowed to operate on humans in an emergency, but not otherwise. Curiously that is not so of human surgeons on animals. Anyway, re castrations I think every vet is probably more competent than every urologist, just because day 1 of the job is probably neutering around a dozen pets or farm animals...