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Re: Ray Bradbury's Circumcision
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:27 am
by Atreyu69 (imported)
Paolo wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:08 pm
At the risk of going off-topic again, here is a bit of info about the story "The Black Ferris". It's too hard to copy and paste with all the images and such, so read it while it's there:
The Haunted Closet: The Black Ferris (1953, Ray Bradbury) (the-haunted-closet.blogspot.com) (
https://the-haunted-closet.blogspot.com ... dbury.html)
It's interesting to note that this story came BEFORE the more popular "Something Wicked This Way Comes," which was inspired by "Black Ferris".
Something Wicked This Way Comes (1983) - IMDb (
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0086336/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0)
SWTWC was published as a novel in 1962, and later adapted into a movie. It would not be immediately released, though, and many fans noted that in the dream sequence the boys have, they appear older and their voices are breaking. This is because it would a couple years later, that the boy actors were called back to add the scene in, when the movie was finally "ready" for release. It cost $19 million to make, and only made back $8.4 million on the theatrical run.
I've always enjoyed Bradbury, but it seems to me as if he began telling the same stories over and over again.
As for this one, well, let's just say that Cinema Sins would have a heyday with this episode.
In The Black Ferris the dad is a dick who orders his boy to strip naked
Paolo wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:08 pm
. Something Wicked This Way Comes
is actually a father son story. The father and son love each other but are distant. They need to find someway to show their love for each other. Fighting the bad guy is their common ground.
It's too bad that Bradbury never wrote about castration. I'm sure his insights into the subject would've been interesting.
Re: Ray Bradbury's Circumcision
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:23 pm
by Paolo
While you can find published works involving castration/eunuch characters today, in Bradbury's heyday, it was likely unheard of and editors would probably never have let it out. I can't imagine something like "Dandelion Wine" or "A Medicine for Melancholy" discussing the boy being neutered.
As for TBF and the father taking his son's clothes, that was...strange. It surprised me. It also surprised me that the kid only owned 2 sets of clothes and 1 pair of shoes.
Oh, and as for him remembering his circumcision, no, I don't believe it.
Re: Ray Bradbury's Circumcision
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:06 pm
by JesusA (imported)
Paolo wrote: Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:23 pm
While you can find published works involving castration/eunuch characters today, in Bradbury's heyday, it was likely unheard of and editors would probably never have let it out. I can't imagine something like "Dandelion Wine" or "A Medicine for Melancholy" discussing the boy being neutered.
Only a bit later than Ray Bradburys
Paolo wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:08 pm
Something Wicked This Way Comes (19
62) was Robert Heinleins Farnhams Freehold (1964). In it, Hugh Farnhams family are thrown into the future as a result of nuclear explosion. They are captured and enslaved by the new dominant people and taken to a palace where eventually Farnhams son Alexander is castrated to be able to follow his mother into the leaders harem. It is a society where most male slaves are castrated and there is selective breeding to produce slaves shorter than their masters.
Re: Ray Bradbury's Circumcision
Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 10:04 pm
by Stevenator (imported)
I’ve seen studies stating where it’s very traumatic for infants. The older I get, the more I’m convinced that it’s a useless surgery, and I’m highly suspect at its reasoning and normalization. Basically, I’m adamantly against it, though I don’t really have a voice of opposition.
F451° is usually compared to Orwell and Huxley. I have first editions of 1984, Animal Farm and Brave New World, but Bradbury’s famous work in a First Edition was more than I could afford. In fact, I had to settle for a 1961 edition.
Re: Ray Bradbury's Circumcision
Posted: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:08 pm
by Atreyu69 (imported)
I wish I'd been cir'ed at age 10 or 12. That way I'd have some memory of the event. I could've considered it to be a sort of mock castration only I wouldn't have had to lose my sweet balls or penis.

Re: Ray Bradbury's Circumcision
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:09 am
by Atreyu69 (imported)
I had no idea that Ray Bradbury could be so gay. In this film everyone is Gay. The two friends; Gay! The father of the boy; Gay! The little boy; Gay! The combined Gayness is almost more than I can stand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0rC7VAnH4c
