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T van Keel (imported)
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Good luck for your upcoming modifications. I'm on the same path to some degree. After five years of counseling without any results I recently met with a therapist who seems to be really open to write a letter of recommendation. If that really comes true, my nullification might take place next year, too.
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Jan_Linde (imported)
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Good luck to you too. It seems more difficult to get an MtE procedure than MtF. If you dress as a female and take estrogen you can get MtF GRS relatively easily, if you are male or agender looking and want your male genitalia removed then it's not so easy.
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T van Keel (imported)
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Thank you!
Yes, absolutely. I can only speak about the situation in Germany, but it's really difficult. The therapists are quite well aware of non-binary and agender, but they are extremely hesitant to write a letter for a MtE surgery. One problem is there's no experience with such a treatment here, and if the patient would benefit from the surgery. We are simply too few, compared to MtF and FtM trans people. It seems I'm the first one in Germany who is asking for voluntary nullification.
The funny thing is that finding a professional surgeon willing to do the job is not the problem. I asked 4 surgeons experienced in transgender surgery, and 3 of them are willing to do it if I can provide the letters. That's the main problem, getting the letters.
Yes, absolutely. I can only speak about the situation in Germany, but it's really difficult. The therapists are quite well aware of non-binary and agender, but they are extremely hesitant to write a letter for a MtE surgery. One problem is there's no experience with such a treatment here, and if the patient would benefit from the surgery. We are simply too few, compared to MtF and FtM trans people. It seems I'm the first one in Germany who is asking for voluntary nullification.
The funny thing is that finding a professional surgeon willing to do the job is not the problem. I asked 4 surgeons experienced in transgender surgery, and 3 of them are willing to do it if I can provide the letters. That's the main problem, getting the letters.
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Jan_Linde (imported)
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Hi, very similar situation here, there are experienced surgeons who can do various types of MtE procedures but you have to get the sign off from a therapist/psychologist.
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T van Keel (imported)
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Do you already have the necessary papers? If not, it might be difficult to become emasculated until next summer. Please feel free to ask me questions if you like.
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Jan_Linde (imported)
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Thanks for the offer, I'll likely ask you some questions nearer the time. I think I will be OK with regard to getting the right paperwork, my gender therapist is sympathetic but is advising me not to rush. Well, I've waited 10+ years so I suppose another 6 months won't matter. In the meantime enjoying life as a new eunuch even though I feel it's a half way stage. Lets hope we are both successful in 2019 and achieve the superior smooth look.
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T van Keel (imported)
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I can't hear terms like "don't rush" anymore (even if it is correct to some degree). That's what my former gender therapists told me way too often during the past 5 years. I'm simply tired of waiting. My journey started about 30 years ago, being sure about wanting the surgery since 10+ years.
But now things seem to start changing. My current gender therapist told me yesterday he is going to write the letter. I can't believe this really is going to happen, after so much time and continuous disappointments. This is a first important step, the next will be to convince my health care insurance to cover the costs. That won't be easy, but not completely impossible, as they normally cover transgender surgery.
But now things seem to start changing. My current gender therapist told me yesterday he is going to write the letter. I can't believe this really is going to happen, after so much time and continuous disappointments. This is a first important step, the next will be to convince my health care insurance to cover the costs. That won't be easy, but not completely impossible, as they normally cover transgender surgery.
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It sounds like you are finally making headway, from what I've read it would have been very difficult 30 years ago. I think it is only recently that it is becoming a bit easier to arrange. Wishing you the best luck. Jan
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T van Keel (imported)
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Thank you. Definitely, 30 years ago no one would have done a voluntary nullification on a young teenage boy. Even today that won't happen. But one thing is sure: if I had known the things I know today at being 13 yo, and if there had been the information sources and possibilities for treatment, I'm quite sure I would have begun my way at that age and most probably would have tried to become nullified before reaching age 20.
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