• Vocabulary Issue

Posted: **Fri Nov 09, 2018 3:11 pm**

How about balled and unballed or nutted or unnutted ? Cut nut or uncut nut.

Posted: **Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:47 pm**

Any name borrowed from animals indicates ' with out consent' in the average person. Having never heard a bull begging to have his balls cut off? Eunuch is the name for a castrated male of the human species. It is a very old word and most dictionarys use the description 'formally' for some office such as a guard in a harem. In the vet trade only the dog seems to have entire or intact male as opposed to an altered male. Or " he has been neutered'. Humans are far more complex as we are inclined to over label things to avoid misinterpretation and misunderstanding. I am firstly a eunuch, a castrated human male. I present as a male. (Look like a guy) My hospital notes always described me as male with the remark 'bilateral orchidectomy post vasectomy'. So that rules out other reasons for castration, cancer, accident etc. So perhaps my version of a eunuch could be 'eunuch male'. I dont mind that. Though I havnt yet put that when filling out forms

Posted: **Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:02 pm**

JesusA (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:37 pm There will soon be a new edition of the Standards of Care book providing information for medical personnel on how best to serve members of this community. It will be an entirely new chapter and the first providing information about voluntary eunuchs. A small committee has been working on the eunuch chapter, but at a presentation on the state of the current draft at a conference in Buenos Aires this week, there was some push-back to our use of the word “EUNUCH.” In the minds of the medical personnel present, there are too many stereotypes and too much misinformation about eunuchs for them to feel comfortable with our use of the word. I’d like to open it up to discussion about possible other words that might be used. Or, is “eunuch” the best term in English?

The current handbook is available in 12 languages and the new edition will probably be translated into about that many languages for world-wide use. Suggested words in languages other than English would also be appreciated.

Why are they pushing back? Eunuch. DEFINITELY eunuch!

Their push back would be like our community deciding we didn't like to use the words female or male to describe their cis-gender reality, but instead start calling women woondoggles and men wondiggles because we feel more comfortable with that.

Our community uses the word eunuch, that should settle it, I'd think.

Posted: **Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:20 pm**

Gonaded or ungonaded, teste-full or teste-less?

Posted: **Fri Nov 09, 2018 9:32 pm**

Brycenosak (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 09, 2018 8:20 pm Gonaded or ungonaded, teste-full or teste-less?

Anyone want to try a test-tickle?

Posted: **Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:07 am**

Basically some people seem to go through life looking for any chance to be able to act offended. Other people go through life trying to get along with other people and not get offended at any and every slight chance they see to claim offense. Most of us fall somewhere between those extremes.

The question is what percentage of people can you offend that are unavoidable no matter what you do ?

What percentage of offended people will cause you to alter your own behavior as being too offensive ?

That s how I d look at any name they could possibly choose. And how valid is any claimed offense and how valid is that person s right to even be offended if they are not a eunuch themselves ?

Posted: **Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:52 am**

A side note to confirm your basic statement. I was at one of those Fred Pryor self-improvement semiinars. At break I went up with a question. My sense of humor, which I have a hard time stiffling, tends to leave at the same time some people laughing their ass off and some offended. I asked the presenter if I should just stiffle it in groups. A lady hanging around piped up that she gave motivational speeches for women and swears some women leave the house in the morning just looking for something to be offended about. In my opinion, same goes for some men.

Posted: **Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:45 pm**

As usual, you and Cutnbulls2ox are bang on. Unfortunately we live in a PC, culturally aware/ sensitive world gone mad. People make careers from it. Humans are so diverse and we are hellbent on putting labels, catagorising everything. As a relatively young country, culturally, there is a huge industry in trying to not offend. Virtually any largish project needs a few maori cultural liason people. Money is paid out to local iwi (tribes) as to not offend the taniwha, a mythical serpent who lives in the local river. I have the dubious distinction of being self employed for 35 years. So if a client pisses me off, they get told in a very direct fashion. then its their choice. Sorry I digress. To quote my dear old Mum, " offense can only be taken", 'People who describe themselves as sensitive are usually sensitive to their own needs'. Good one guys, great topic!

Posted: **Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:43 pm**

If word count/time isn't too large of an issue for this presentation, a short paragraph on the cultural misconceptions of eunuchs in history could be in order. For example:

"When one hears the word eunuch, an image of a fat, effeminate human with a taste for _______ and ________ readily comes to mind. Perhaps the stereotype of the large harem guard with a sword. Such is no longer, nor has it always been, the case."

Perhaps: "Eunuchs are, and have always been, a very diverse 'genre' (word? subset?) of the human race."

Posted: **Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:43 am**

Personally, I think that it should be left as "Eunuch". It's meaning is almost universally known as opposed to all the new gender definitions that are showing up. I keep having to Google the new ones I see to find out what interests/identities are involved. Secondly, I think this PC stuff is crap and hopefully it seems to me that we are starting to get away from that stuff. The medical profession, and as a Retired Paramedic I've been around them a lot, can be pretty stuffy and/or pretentious at times. Last, for the most part the only time you see exact medical language used in the hospitals is if they are dictating information or Doctors talking to each other.

Can't we just keep it simple?

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