Hormones and sexuality

[Shepherdsflock (imported)]

They are typically used to treat patients with fast heart rates. If you are typically in the range of 60-70 BPM you would not want to take them. If your heart rate is consistently 90-higher a beta blocker would be beneficial. They are also given to patients following a heart attack.

My heart rate is usually in the low to mid 50s. Sounds like I would not be a good candidate for that.

[Begoneboy (imported)]

If your heart rate is in the mid 50s your doctor would not put you on beta blockers. Unless he/she is a total quack in which case you would want to find a different doctor. Having become complete nullo I still have sex drive. I've never taken "T" but when I began taking "E" it helped with a lot of the side effects of practically no "T" being produced by my body. Of course I couldn't have the common erection because there was no longer anything to erect. There is another arousal that comes from the prostate gland. And of course the rectum is also capable of being very aroused. When I first began "E" there was no real feminization to be outwardly noticed due to such small doses. Those small doses did create sensual feelings within however. Later on I increased the "E" dose to actually produce some feminine traits. I did eventually desire even more of the traits so increased the dosage more with the ensuing results. Speak candidly with your doctor because without castration "E" can greatly reduce "not completely" erections while leaving other sensual senses working. SMALL dosage will be the secret from what you have described. Try to stay with bio-identical as they are far safer for your body. Men can still after-all get breast cancer. It's just not very commonly seen.

[nutless1 (imported)]

I agree with sparky, that castration has made intimacy more focused and center to lovemaking, as I no longer focus on my genitalia and expectations of self-performance. Kissing, cuddling, massage, and oral sex is much heightened and fulfilling, and any orgasm is a deeper experience and outcome of those expressions of intimacy, and icing on the cake so to speak, but like cake icing, I can surely fully enjoy the experience without it.

So, if I enjoy those things before castration, do you think I would still have a desire to enjoy it castrated? Would it still cross my mind to want to do those things?

[Shepherdsflock (imported)]

I agree with sparky, that castration has made intimacy more focused and center to lovemaking, as I no longer focus on my genitalia and expectations of self-performance. Kissing, cuddling, massage, and oral sex is much heightened and fulfilling, and any orgasm is a deeper experience and outcome of those expressions of intimacy, and icing on the cake so to speak, but like cake icing, I can surely fully enjoy the experience without it.

So do you still actively think about wanting to do those things, or is it that you don't really think about it unless the opportunity presents itself? The reason I ask is that my wife is very passive. Even if she wants to be touched she will not initiate anything. I'm afraid I will no longer have a desire to start anything and we just won't ever do anything at all anymore.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

We often say round these parts YMMV, as folks are so different. It seems that this is not widely appreciated by the primary care community.

I went for my annual physical yesterday, and while the whole service was perfunctory at best, the nurse and the doc (who hadn't troubled to acquaint himself in the least with my records) focused on their supposed tight association of free T levels and the possibility of uncontrolled rage. (I am known for quite the reverse.) Reluctantly, they renewed the prescription for T cypionate, and scheduled another visit in six months to verify that I haven't by then lost my marbles as well as the long gone testicles. They seemed surprised that at least some erectile function was welcomed on occasion by my wife, as we are in our 60's, and yes, we are still interested in "those things". Ah yes, and I do happen to be on no T at all at present, despite having had mid-range free T before.

It seems that even the medical profession has little idea what to expect of the longterm eunuch. How much chance the general public knowing what to expect?

(I have already received an email solicitation of grades "delighted" and "excellent" for this medical service, as well as a reminder for additional payment. This is truly the degeneration of a noble profession into commercial racket.)

Like many eunuchs, I am in charge of my sexuality, and do not confuse it with love and affection, both we have in abundance.

I think I keep the wife and lose the doc.

[cocktamer (imported)]

We often say round these parts YMMV, as folks are so different. It seems that this is not widely appreciated by the primary care community.

I went for my annual physical yesterday, and while the whole service was perfunctory at best, the nurse and the doc (who hadn't troubled to acquaint himself in the least with my records) focused on their supposed tight association of free T levels and the possibility of uncontrolled rage. (I am known for quite the reverse.) Reluctantly, they renewed the prescription for T cypionate, and scheduled another visit in six months to verify that I haven't by then lost my marbles as well as the long gone testicles. They seemed surprised that at least some erectile function was welcomed on occasion by my wife, as we are in our 60's, and yes, we are still interested in "those things". Ah yes, and I do happen to be on no T at all at present, despite having had mid-range free T before.

It seems that even the medical profession has little idea what to expect of the longterm eunuch. How much chance the general public knowing what to expect?

(I have already received an email solicitation of grades "delighted" and "excellent" for this medical service, as well as a reminder for additional payment. This is truly the degeneration of a noble profession into commercial racket.)

Like many eunuchs, I am in charge of my sexuality, and do not confuse it with love and affection, both we have in abundance.

I think I keep the wife and lose the doc.

Well said !! You are so right on !

[nutless1 (imported)]

While I would say I don't actively think about doing those intimate things, I believe it seems to come about more natural than before when I felt pressure to perform when any intimacy was fueled by testosterone.

With the lack of testosterone, and the anxiety and frustration to perform sexually removed, there has been a shift to wanting more intimacy of kissing, licking, cuddling, and massage, which I always desired and enjoyed, and now is focused more on providing pleasure and fulfillment to my partner, and in doing so, pleasure and fulfillment is mutually achieved. Ironically, with testosterone out of the way, I believe it has created desire for greater intimacy on the part of both of us. While the intimacy no longer need be isolated to the bedroom, it surely can end up there out of comfort and nudity, that enhances the experience.

In sum, I believe it has become a matter of attitude rather than hormone fueled desire. I once heard the renowned sex therapist Dr. Ruth say on the CNN Larry King show that our largest sex organ, for males and females alike, is located between our ears--the brain, and I believe that is so true. Like so many areas of life, intimacy is a free choice for each of us, and we choose or not to create an environment for it, and/or engage in it whenever the opportunity presents itself.

So do you still actively think about wanting to do those things, or is it that you don't really think about it unless the opportunity presents itself? The reason I ask is that my wife is very passive. Even if she wants to be touched she will not initiate anything. I'm afraid I will no longer have a desire to start anything and we just won't ever do anything at all anymore.

[notsomanly (imported)]

The brain is indeed our largest sexual organ, but it's influenced by testosterone. My wife and I are very rarely sexual, but we are physically intimate in a nonsexual way. Cuddling, stroking and embracing all feel so good for both of us. We agree that it wouldn't be a problem if we never had sex again. We are naked around one another frequently but that almost never leads to arousal. I agree that love and intimacy are not the same thing as sexuality.

I'm taking Triptolerin to reduce T to castrate levels for at least a few months. I'm very curious to learn how I feel. If I become impotent, all the better. Removing the possibility of sex certainly would eliminate performance anxiety! Others on this site have remarked that they don't miss sex because they no longer desire it. I think that would be lovely.

While I would say I don't actively think about doing those intimate things, I believe it seems to come about more natural than before when I felt pressure to perform when any intimacy was fueled by testosterone.

With the lack of testosterone, and the anxiety and frustration to perform sexually removed, there has been a shift to wanting more intimacy of kissing, licking, cuddling, and massage, which I always desired and enjoyed, and now is focused more on providing pleasure and fulfillment to my partner, and in doing so, pleasure and fulfillment is mutually achieved. Ironically, with testosterone out of the way, I believe it has created desire for greater intimacy on the part of both of us. While the intimacy no longer need be isolated to the bedroom, it surely can end up there out of comfort and nudity, that enhances the experience.

In sum, I believe it has become a matter of attitude rather than hormone fueled desire. I once heard the renowned sex therapist Dr. Ruth say on the CNN Larry King show that our largest sex organ, for males and females alike, is located between our ears--the brain, and I believe that is so true. Like so many areas of life, intimacy is a free choice for each of us, and we choose or not to create an environment for it, and/or engage in it whenever the opportunity presents itself.

[Shepherdsflock (imported)]

The brain is indeed our largest sexual organ, but it's influenced by testosterone. My wife and I are very rarely sexual, but we are physically intimate in a nonsexual way. Cuddling, stroking and embracing all feel so good for both of us. We agree that it wouldn't be a problem if we never had sex again. We are naked around one another frequently but that almost never leads to arousal. I agree that love and intimacy are not the same thing as sexuality.

I'm taking Triptolerin to reduce T to castrate levels for at least a few months. I'm very curious to learn how I feel. If I become impotent, all the better. Removing the possibility of sex certainly would eliminate performance anxiety! Others on this site have remarked that they don't miss sex because they no longer desire it. I think that would be lovely.

Thank you for this response. This is the type of answer I needed to hear. My anxiety was that the physical, non-sexual intimacy would disappear with the sexual part. My wife would prefer that sex (intercourse) faded into the past, but we both enjoy the cuddling, kissing, stroking, etc. that you and your wife still enjoy. I haven't used my penis for anything sexual in almost a year, and we are quite happy with the changes it has brought to our marriage. I won't go into all the details of why I seek castration, but eliminating erections and the drive to do anything with them would be a very positive change for me.

[Shepherdsflock (imported)]

I found this article about a guy who took Lupron and am wondering if what he describes is close to what others have experienced?

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/11/wh ... rated.html