It seem like all of you forget one important thing and that's bone density. Without T my bone density got so bad that my doctor said I could break my hip without even falling. I was put back on Androgel a couple years ago with some other meds and won't know the results until November this year when I have another test done. I agree being castrated had so many positive benefits accept the hot flashes and night sweats. But don't forget the bone density as it is a hidden killer and have it checked ever two years. Please.

Hi Sparkey. Thank you for that. I resonate with what you are saying about you and your wife. My wife has lost all interest in sex and at first I was put out, but over time I came to the realization that I can't divorce over sex because the rest of our life is great. So I'm not going to start over for sex, because that will always wane, where a great companion in life is what really matters. So I was left with a crossroad. Do I drive us both nuts, of have the nuts removed. LOL. I've always disliked my balls mostly for comfort and now to remove T from my system so I can be a good gelding. You say that you are focused more on her than before and now she feels more like newlyweds. That sounds awesome. Please explain in greater detail what you mean.

I understand what you do for her. What does she do for you now that its different from before castration? I ask because I want to get an idea on what a married eunuch is like and how our wives think of it.

So good to make your acquaintance. BiBIker

tugon (imported) wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:06 pm No I have never been married nor in a long term loving relationship. I am 61 and have enjoyed a fatherly relationship young man I worked with who thinks of me as a second father. He actually gave me the name tugon. So in a small way I have felt like a father and of course my other boy in my avatar. My dog and I are both neutered.

As I have found out that I still fantasize about sex and have erotic dreams. Of course not with the same frequency as prior to castration. Having been sexualized in my youth I never had a normal sexual maturation. As I aged I found myself developing a sexual addiction. I always needed bigger thrills and greater risks to satisfy. I still have those negative thoughts and desires but without T I am lacking the drive to fulfill them. I tell others that castration will slow the drive but not fix the brain. For those who want to end all sex drive and thoughts I try to warn them that you may not have total peace from desires. Your brain does not sound like it needs repair and I do think you will continue to have some thoughts. Others claim that they no longer think about sex but due to my addiction or just being a sexual person I still have thoughts and desires. Whatever you choose I wish you the best.

Thank you for sharing that. My sex drive was high and my imagination is vivid, but manageable. If I can get my thought of sex to a lessor degree, I welcome it.

Do you know of any eunuchs that regret getting castrated? IF all other animals use castration to control the herd, why would it not be a preferred method for humans too. No one argues the disadvantages of castration with other animals, so why is the human male any different? That is my $64,000 question for everyone too.

Bi Biker

Eddie (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 9:26 am It seem like all of you forget one important thing and that's bone density. Without T my bone density got so bad that my doctor said I could break my hip without even falling. I was put back on Androgel a couple years ago with some other meds and won't know the results until November this year when I have another test done. I agree being castrated had so many positive benefits accept the hot flashes and night sweats. But don't forget the bone density as it is a hidden killer and have it checked ever two years. Please.

Hi Eddie, Pleasure to meet you. Yes, I understand about bone density. Do you take vitamin D? You might only have a vitamin D deficiency. There are recent findings that taking calcium supplements accelerates osteoporosis because the supplement tricks the body in thinking it doesn't need to produce calcium in the bones. Hence, poor bone strength. Not unlike testosterone HRT tricks the both in thinking it doesn't need to produce it, so it stop or reduces producing it. Those of you out there that control your T as a HRT, how many of you have had your T tested after a period of not taking it? I bet your T production has dropped. So my theory is, with a good diet and exercise which included daily Vitamin D, will stave off osteoporosis.

How is your life otherwise? You happier for it? You have a partner? Are they happier with your castration? Would you reverse it if you could?

MHO.. Bi Biker

I am a lot less preoccupied with myself and am more content with a lot more foreplay and cuddling and not with reaching an orgasm I am just as happy with or without penetrating sex. I am able to enjoy things for an hour or two without going for the climax and now if I do climax there is not the same crash afterwards as before but can keep going which is such a change. After almost 4 years now this is truly the norm. I don't get much of anything from self stimulating and can't get hard on my own so I am more dependent on mutual stimulation.

BiBikerFL (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:22 am Hi Eddie, Pleasure to meet you. Yes, I understand about bone density. Do you take vitamin D? You might only have a vitamin D deficiency. There are recent findings that taking calcium supplements accelerates osteoporosis because the supplement tricks the body in thinking it doesn't need to produce calcium in the bones. Hence, poor bone strength. Not unlike testosterone HRT tricks the both in thinking it doesn't need to produce it, so it stop or reduces producing it. Those of you out there that control your T as a HRT, how many of you have had your T tested after a period of not taking it? I bet your T production has dropped. So my theory is, with a good diet and exercise which included daily Vitamin D, will stave off osteoporosis.

How is your life otherwise? You happier for it? You have a partner? Are they happier with your castration? Would you reverse it if you could?

MHO.. Bi Biker

I'm on Calcium Citrate+D3, D3 and one a week Alendronate. I meet with my Endocrinologist every six months with lab work. Just like a women loses Estrogen has bone lose and a man who loses testoserone will over time have bone lose.

To add clarity about bone loss and T and E... E is want prevent bone loss not T.... however if you have T your body will convert some T to E which protect bones and joints etc.

I have never had a bone density test but I have had some serious falls and no bones were broken. I try to remember to take Calcium but not very good with supplements. One of my falls was down a 12 foot hill from a bike path to a river bed hitting every tree on the way. I had abrasions but no broken bones. When I first adopted my dog I was walking with him up the stairs to our second floor flat. Something caught his eyes and he went running back down the stairs and I in mid-step was pulled backwards and I hit every step on the way down. Still nothing broken and my former doctor was not interested in my bone density because after all that is a woman's issue.

I have had a number of falls and trips and my bones seem to handle the stress.

tugon (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:15 pm I try to remember to take Calcium but not very good with supplements.

Still nothing broken and my former doctor was not interested in my bone density because after all that is a woman's issue.

You can make a habbit to take Calcium in combination with another act like puting the tablet on the table while laying the table for the meal.

My doctor prescribed me daily, except in summer, Calcium/VitamineD3 500mg/44IE and I'm not a woman and nor a eunuch.

sparkey49 (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 07, 2017 10:24 am I am a lot less preoccupied with myself and am more content with a lot more foreplay and cuddling and not with reaching an orgasm I am just as happy with or without penetrating sex. I am able to enjoy things for an hour or two without going for the climax and now if I do climax there is not the same crash afterwards as before but can keep going which is such a change. After almost 4 years now this is truly the norm. I don't get much of anything from self stimulating and can't get hard on my own so I am more dependent on mutual stimulation.

Hi Sparkey, Congratulations on 36 years. What did your wife say when you told her you wanted to be castrated? How does she like it and you now? I very much resonate with you on foreplay and cuddling. Once in a while when my wife feels sorry for me, she offers a hand job. Her hands and mouth are free to play and create whatever mind fucking fantasy narrative she wants. We both enjoy it. But like you, I'm indifferent with penetration. She has little to no interest in sex anymore and getting castrated is something we both want. For a while she was confused on why I would want to, but once we talked a good deal about it, she is supportive, but cautiously optimistic. She has never been a fan of my balls or any balls for that matter and we both agree that testosterone is something were both want out of our lives. The idea of finally being smooth without a sticky sweaty scrotum getting in the way is exciting. Especially for cycling in which they do bother me. Not a fan can't be rid of them soon enough.

I have so many questions. What will my personality be like afterwards? How about my estrogen levels? With no T in my system and only E, what will I look, feel and behave like? If it's true that estrogen is what produces calcium, what do we need T for? If every other animal is healthy and fine after castration, why are men any different than any other animal? Don't hear about dogs, casts or livestock getting diabetes or heart disease or osteoporosis from castration. Only positive results.

I plan on attending MoM in August to have face to face conversations with other eunuchs and I very much look forward to it. I'm about 99% sure I will be castrated, but I will hold off on 100% until after the meeting. I would enjoy very much hearing from you on how your relationship is with your wife and what do you both do intimately together that you both enjoy.

My only hesitation is health. I don't want to take HRT and I want to make sure that with proper diet and exercise, that the side effects from castration will be less likely.

So much to learn.