Advice on Androcur

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Rocket Number Nine thank you for the input. As I wait for the Androcur my mind is days into the future. Difficult having made a decision to order the Androcur, knowing that my desired results are still a few weeks into the future and the real test will take a bit longer. My t level is on the low side, around 300 and perhaps might not take too long to come down. You did mention the spike that might occur initially. Any idea when it starts
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experiment (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:34 pm My t level is on the low side, around 300 and perhaps might not take too long to come down. You did mention the spike that might occur initially. Any idea when it starts

The testosterone spike only happened to me because I was switching anti-androgens. Basically the drug I used to take, spironolactone, differs in action from Androcur, so while I was at rock bottom testosterone levels upon starting Androcur, it took a while for the Androcur to kick in and pick up the slack left by not being on spironolactone anymore, causing a testosterone spike because the Androcur hadn't had enough time to start working on me yet, and the stuff keeping my test levels down before was gone. The same thing would have happened if I just had stopped taking anti-androgens all together, although without going back down haha.

So you won't have to worry about any testosterone spike at the start, seeing as you're not suppressing your testosterone yet. I only had a testosterone spike because for a little while my body didn't have enough anti-androgens inside it to counteract natural production, like it used to. For reference though, it took about 5 days or so IIRC for me to start noticing the spike and it's symptoms. I felt a bit worried at first "oh shit is this shit working or not? am I going to turn into a werewolf?" but friends assured me that that was normal and that it'd all go away again.

Considering your testosterone levels, I do think you would do perfectly fine if you were to take only 50mg per day from the start, but again, that's entirely up to you. Regardless I'm sure you'll get what you're after with this stuff, it is pretty good at what it does. I even got some ball pain on it, it's like you can feel it nuking your balls.

I know how it feels waiting for that first shipment to come in, and the joy that comes with finally popping that first pill. Even though it takes a while to truly be feeling the effects, it is very nice just knowing that the effects are on their way and that your testosterone soon won't be bothering you.
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Thanks again Rocket number nine. You have clarified a few things for me and put me at ease a bit. You mentioned ball pain as possibly a way the testicle show they are shutting down. How long did that take before you noticed it, a few days, weeks?

I am trying to make certain I know what to expect so as to not panic or become too concerned on any event. I do plan to continue for several months before making a decision to continue indefinitely.
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experiment (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2016 4:16 pm You mentioned ball pain as possibly a way the testicle show they are shutting down. How long did that take before you noticed it, a few days, weeks?

I am trying to make certain I know what to expect so as to not panic or become too concerned on any event.

It was more on the scale of months that I started feeling that. I would say at or around the 2 month mark and continuing in varying levels since. It gradually started and I can't tell but I think it's been declining. The pain just randomly happens and randomly goes away. Didn't depend on my positioning, activity, or anything, although it tended to happen more in the evening. Sometimes it'll be both testicles/cords, sometimes it'll just be one side. It doesn't seem to favor a side. Now I'll go days or longer with nothing, then randomly have some start up. I don't know if everyone gets the testicle pain, but I have talked with many people on Androcur who have gotten the pain.

I also feel like my epididymis got a bit more noticeable when feeling my testicles, and I really can't tell if this is mainly from the testicles shrinking, the epididymis swelling, or both. I'm not sure if that itself is common though - I haven't asked anyone else I know on Androcur if they've noticed anything going on with their epididymis. I've never had testicular pains before in my life until taking this stuff (aside from getting kicked in the balls etc.), so I'm not exactly sure how to classify the pain, but I feel like it's mainly been a feeling of pain up with the cords, with occasional flares of pain more central to the testicle (keep in mind, we're talking low levels of pain here, completely ignorable but still present and maybe making one want to handle their sack with a little extra care while it's going on). Occasionally the pain has a light hint of burning sensation to it, it's hard to describe.

When it's not doing that though they're completely normal (well, normal for testicles that have been influenced by anti-androgens for 2.5 years). They definitely have less sensitivity to pain than they did before I took any anti-androgens, in general. Getting hit in the balls causes nothing but a reflexive reaction to expected pain, but there's virtually no pain. Any pain from getting hit there is instant, and of much less intensity than before. No lasting pain at all, and it's very localized. So generally speaking Androcur should make ones balls less sensitive to pain, even if it does wind up causing occasionally low level testicle pain on its own.

If anyone else could weigh in on this it'd be great, by the way. I'm interested in hearing others experiences in regard to Androcur and testicular pain, particularly if anyone noticed changes in their epididymis.
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Could be the pain is coming from epiditymis itself and not the balls, so the balls only have nerves on the surface, not in the inner.

Use 2x ibufrofen against swelling of epititymis ans it will be better because it is working against swelling and so also against pain there.

It couls be a little infect because low DHT/Testo so the immune system is not more so strong, especially in the genitals.
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CastratedTomcat (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2016 2:27 am Could be the pain is coming from epiditymis itself and not the balls, so the balls only have nerves on the surface, not in the inner.

Use 2x ibufrofen against swelling of epititymis ans it will be better because it is working against swelling and so also against pain there.

It couls be a little infect because low DHT/Testo so the immune system is not more so strong, especially in the genitals.

I have had some concerns about this possibly being from an infection or something, rather than it being from Androcur. It's been going on for a long time though, and it's not regular at all, it's extremely random. Would there be any other signs of infection there other than swelling and pain?

I'm noticing no extra heat in the region, or any redness of the skin or anything like that. No discharge, no discoloration of urine, no fever, no chills, no pain while urinating or during sexual activity, etc.

For reference the pain is so light that I'd consider any pain medicine for it to be a complete waste.

Could an infection just linger for months without getting really bad and without showing any symptoms other than pain and some swelling?
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for better or worse my order of Androcur (150 50 mg ) pills is reported by the Post Office to be in my regional Post Office. My best guess is they will be delivered tomorrow, (Friday) or this Sat. I am getting really worried about my commitment to try it out. My plan has been all along to go with 100 mg for the first 10 days presuming the surge would be beneficial, and reduce it to 50 mg thereafter. i want the effects as quickly as possible, but realize patience is a necessity. I won't know if I can go through with it until I have the pills and take the first dose. Any suggestions for helping me keep my resolve at this challenging time!
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What is it that's giving you second thoughts? What is it that's impacting your resolve?

Patience will be key, there is no rushing this stuff really, even if you up the dose at first it's still going to take a long time (relatively speaking) for all the effects to roll in. That said, just take the meds and go about daily life as normal and try not to think about it all that much. Before you know it you'll have the effects rolling in.
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experiment (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:34 pm Rocket Number Nine thank you for the
encouragement. I suppose the real issue is trying to remain private and keep it to myself. The goal has been to free myself of interest in sexual matters and control myself not let my hormones do it for me. Spent and still spend too much time online wasting it and have many more worthwhile activities to pursue.
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I don't even masturbate anymore and I still waste far too much time online. Beware of finding other time-wasting things to do online to fill the void 😄

Who are you hiding it from? Unless it's your wife or something along those lines then I doubt anyone would really pick up on it. Or is it that you don't have anyone you know in person that you can really talk about it with, and wish you did?
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