Wankers: Why it's a problem for you to pass off your fantasy as reality in the forums

[Losethem (imported)]

A good many of us who actually have these mods disagree.

This is not the thread to discuss his specific situation. This is a broader thread outlining why it's an issue when wankers appear, no matter who they are, and pass themselves off as the real thing while they are fapping behind their keyboards. The main point being that they can say whatever they want without injury to themselves. Then you get new folks in who are serious about these things, read that stuff not understanding it's someone's fantasy, then they do it and end up with real harm to themselves and possibly death.

That is what this thread is about.

[Paolo]

Javids420 really did have his penis cut off! The photos were authentic, especially the close-up of the open stump. I don't understand why his thread was closed and why the moderator called his story bullshit and his pictures fake. He was not on here wanking, and was unfairly kicked off the forum. His one mistake was that he approached the subject in such a way that he at first made his story lack credibility.

Don't start.

It was the way he approached the place, responded to others, and basically, the fights he stirred up.

NEVER before have I had so many emails and PM's over a topic, and all of them complaints.

Javids has been informed that he can still read the forums, and until such time as he wants to post again, without the issues that caused all, this he may.

He wasn't kicked off or banned.

LT and others have made valid arguments, and the subject is closed.

Back to the topic at hand.

[kristoff]

Several people have gotten really stirred up about all this, quite without need. There are a good number of us who have been around for a couple of decades, most of whom are modded, and are very familiar with how that is done. They know what the story is, and they call things as they see them. I want them to continue doing that. People would be well advised to listen to them.

Javids came in here with his crank waving all around, soliciting unwanted advice, posting claims about his actions. He may well have cut his crank off, he may not have. I rely on the photo analysis of a very competent photo editor who questions the photos that were posted. They might be real, but short of a vid chat with someone, I cant tell for sure.

We have had a number of cases of members doing ill-advised things - cutting, clamping, smashing, etc., and causing themselves severe harm. There have been a few cases where we think someone has killed themselves inadvertently. We can't always be sure of what happens. This is why so many people get so insistent upon advising against these kind of actions. Lives do matter, we do care.

We've had one member write in asking to delete his profile over this. We are not going to be taking these kinds of actions when someone is all heated up - they'll just regret it.

In the meantime, I pay attention to what LT has to say about fantasies. More than once we have had to shut down someone posting fantasy as reality, a couple to the point that I had to ban them, something I hate to do. We can't have people relying on fantasies to guide them - people get hurt that way.

If you have issues with anymore of this, send me a PM and we'll discuss things. In the meantime, lets cool this whole thing down.

[Losethem (imported)]

If you have issues with anymore of this, send me a PM and we'll discuss things. In the meantime, lets cool this whole thing down.

And that's why I tried to refocus the conversation, at least in this thread, by not mentioning a certain name.

The main reason I get incredibly passionate/opinionated/terse in some of those threads is the wanking issue where it gets presented as "fact." I don't have a problem with wankers per se, what I have a problem with is when their fantasies are presented as "fact", and then an unsuspecting person who is real trips across it, takes it as advice, and ends up harming themselves. To my knowledge it has not ended up with a death, but then who knows? Perhaps it has and we never heard about it.

To those of you who fantasize about this, an active fantasy life is great, and I really do want people to have at it. We simply need you to identify that is what it is. The problem is when people want to pass it off as fact, because they want the feedback from others as a way to feed the fantasy, which is the point it crosses the line for me. There is a whole archive of fantasy stories, there is no need to pass off your fantasy as fact. There is plenty of fodder in the fiction archives for you to feed your need.

--LT

[A-1 (imported)]

It is remarkable to see how this site has matured in the last decade and a half. I am proud of all of you. It is impossible to minimize the contributions of each individual. This site is unique both in it's inception and its function.

If you are new here, pay attention to the people here. They know what they are talking about. I know what gets hauled through the Emergency Room. I see it often. It is a good place to stay out of.

[daifu-orchid (imported)]

Yes, wankers abound.

I have sometimes mistaken a wanker for genuine, but it seems to show in the end.

I guess one can be kind to a wanker, but it's usually a waste of time.

[A-1 (imported)]

"Wankers" do fantasy.

Vanilla can be real or a wanker....

But castration/penectomy/nullo real and wanker is a YUGE difference.

People do not die from fantasy.

They die when the fantasy takes over and casts their mind into a haze where they cannot distinguish one from the other.

This is mental illness. It can kill you just as efficiently as physical illness can.

Yet, people like to ignore this fact.

Then, it becomes Sandy Hook and we wonder how it could happen.

Well, I just told you.

If you want it all cut off, find a doctor and do it right.

Because fantasy can go away. Body modifications ARE A DIFFERENT STORY.

Gender can be faked and reality can be faked. Even here.

Some can tell. Some cannot.

Be careful.

A life can hang in the balance.

[Losethem (imported)]

Yes, wankers abound.

I have sometimes mistaken a wanker for genuine, but it seems to show in the end.

I guess one can be kind to a wanker, but it's usually a waste of time.

My experience is they ALWAYS show themselves. Eventually.

[sandi1234 (imported)]

Hi, as others have said, fantasies are a good and really driving thing, but I'm dead sure we have at one time in our lives had fantasies we knew deep down that should not be lived out? at least i know i have.

I personally as a nurse have one problem with things like this, some one writes it , gets responddses from worried humans, and while that is bad, if someone really desperate sees it they go like, wow i do this, or end my life, what is the big deal? and then we have the problems running.And something will be running, literally.

Sandi

[krone1000 (imported)]

It's still sad it's even a thing. There are times and places to do certain things which is why there are sites catered to fantasy seekers. Apparently somewhere along the line they forget fantasies are just that; fantasies and shouldn't be acted out in reality.