NoUturns (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 18, 2014 3:50 pm I am glad that you had a good experience with Dr. Arnkoff, Lasander. Butterfly Jack and johnnyquest, I went to Dr. Arnkoff in November and he charged $2,500 but said he was raising his price to $3,000 January 1. Since I had to travel a good ways I had the additional expense of airline tickets, hotel and car rental. Everything went well with my visit to see the Dr. and there were no complications. I am very pleased overall.

Yeah, he raised his price Jan 1st to 3000$--car rental, hotel, medication, and airline added another 1000 bucks or so.

Have u kept ur testicles in a jar or something?

Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:12 am I have consulted the medical transcriptionist I know. She continues to insist that the insurance standard fee for bi-lateral orchiechtomy is US$6,000 (usually reduced by agreement between insurer and provider by a substantial amount), so US$3000 is probably about the right amount for a non insurance payer. --FLO--

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Re: Seeking low cost clinic in Asia for castration

Fri, August 31, 2012 - 9:04 PM

At $3500 it 's done under general anesthetic in a SRS reputable international grade clinic or hospital, in India the quotation I've received was from an urologist done under general anesthetic, At Pratunam policlinic (Thailand) it's done by a general practicien under local anesthetic and some peoples have reported that it's low grade clinic but all my researches have failled to find any complaints regarding Dr. Thep. The fact that it's a low grade clinic doen't mean that the surgeon is inadacuate. This doctor do sex changes to local boys, breast implants and so on, he certainly can remove testicles and scrotum, at $150 it's a bargain compare to Dr Arnkoff in Michigan who does remove testicles and scrotum for $4500 under local anethetic, By the way all quotations were for testicles and scrotum removal. I hope this clarify your confusion.

Well, this doesn't clear it up for me at all, but if one were to ask Drs Chettawut or Preecha for their fees, maybe we'd have the answer. It seems that while the $150 nutting in the office was available, it no longer is. The price is higher. I would be surprised if it has risen as much as Dr A in US.

Wow $3,000 seems a bargain to be castrated by a surgeon. To trust the skilled hands performing the surgery. If anything went wrong he could take care of the issue or know it was beyond his abilities and the patient be transported to an ER.

I on the other hand was castrated for free in a cheap hotel room that I paid for that night. I had to agree to be videotaped and purchase my own numbing agent. I think I paid for dinner that night after the procedure. I had to tolerate the idiots dog and his need to have the TV on all night so he could sleep. Which of course meant I could not sleep. Realizing once the act was over I was an annoyance. The next day I had to clean the room of all the bloody pads and discarded surgical supplies since the room was in my name and he felt housekeeping should do it. After that he felt I should buy him breakfast at McD's before we parted.

The fun had only begun at this point. Men began calling the house where at the time I lived with my mother to tell me they enjoyed my video. Oh holy shit he was giving out my phone number. He continued to call collect of course to further discuss his fantasies that once he had me in his collection became quite sick. His fantasies of capturing men he felt should be castrated based on hate was disturbing. He became angry when I stopped taking his calls. Now the calls were to worn me that the FBI were investigating him and they may come to the house. Castrated but living with fear of exposure and humiliation.

Physically I had drainage for a long period of time due to a quick return to work. A surgeon can advise you as to aftercare but not a cutter. One time I asked during one of those disgusting collect calls why I was still draining he simply said it must have been something I did. Luckily I had my own source of antibiotics since he could not prescribe any. After the fact it was apparent how he had lied about his skills. Many nights I had dreams of being somewhere important and all of a sudden the drainage flooded and discolored my pants much to the horror of others. One time I did stop for lunch before work and I realized I had just had a large amount of drainage and had to run home to change and redress.

Now even today when I had the fall and had all that swelling I was afraid I had herniated myself. Never knowing if anything was done properly always weighs a little on your mind. I would have hated to have needed surgery for a hernia at this stage of life.

Yes when I think back to all the fear, anxiety, phone calls, invasion of privacy and doubt I think $3,000 would be a bargain.

thewave22 (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 19, 2014 5:35 pm Have u kept ur testicles in a jar or something?

No, I was a thousand miles away from home and needed to return the next day. I was too debilitated to make a trip to the UPS store while they were open. Plus, I was not entirely convinced I would be able to legally ship them--there are lots of regulations to follow. I don't know the ins and outs of shipping human body parts preserved in alcohol. I know the chances of being caught would of been low but I don't want to risk my freedom for a chance to giggle at the thought of my balls being in a jar at home. If I lived closer then I could of stuck them in a jar filled with vodka and just drive them home no problem. Travelling by plane complicates matters. I'm just glad they are gone.

@tugon

Oh my, that sounded like an awful experience! Hope they caught the guy.

Hello new here i thought i would ask something if i can where i am here in Australia re cost this is from a PDF regarding castration its says in the PDF ( Some men prefer surgical castration (orchiectomy)

because it is much cheaper than drugs (about $55.45 in Australia after government rebates; $150 in Thailand; $2,000 to $3,500 in the USA). Here because we have Medicare and all hospital visits are free and all surgery are free the only cost for surgical castration (orchiectomy) is $55.45. this is done in a Hospital. Now to my question i am seriously considering surgical castration (orchiectomy) for many reason but mostly because of very high male hormone levels that make me extremely sexually active on a daily bases . Can I ask With anyone that is now Eunuch how have you copied with the main side effects that’s Decreased energy level , weight gain and have you found anything else you have had to overcome I and just asking I have had many talks with my psychologist and I have to see a psychiatrist soon you have to do these things before the government will let you have the surgery but all these psychologist and psychiatrist visits are free as well and if they think you i know what I’m doing and I am making a decision based on good reasoning they give the ok

I would highly suggest that you seriously think about trying chemical castration for about six month before you make a final decision. When the chemical castration lowers your testosterone to the castrate level you can get a much better idea of what the side effects are. Your mileage will vary and no two individuals are the same. Many of us use some type of hormone replacement, in some cases a very limited amount.

I have a question for those of you who have been surgically castrated via a scrotal incision. I was done on Saturday afternoon in the Strathfield Private Hospital in Sydney by a fully qualified urologist and my question is, how long does it take till the swelling of the scrotum post op goes down and it starts to retract up against the base of the penis.

Today marks 4 months since my visit to Dr. A for surgical castration and the swelling has been gone for some time. I expect the scrotum, which has drawn up some due to nothing to keep it extended, is where it will be unless I have it removed, which I doubt I will as it doesn't bother me. I can't recall exactly how long it was but it wasn't long, longer than a month but less than 2 months maybe? Dr.A had warned me that there would be considerable swelling and discoloration. I continued taking the antibiotics that he prescribed until they were gone, kept the area clean with antibacterial soap and applied Neosporin as he had directed. I followed all of his instructions as he had given them to me and from my own personal opinion I believe that the healing went very quickly and smoothly all in all. He instructed me to call him if I believed something was wrong but I never felt the need to call.

As for how long it takes for excess fluid in a scrotum post-orchiectomy to resorb, I surmise that one to three weeks is likely to be typical, with variations according to surgical technique and individual biology.

As for comfort and minimizing swelling, I found it useful to use a pair of "boy shorts" that were rather snug. "Boy shorts," which are intended for females do not have space allowed for testicles, and, without them, snug female underwear, such as boy shorts worked very, very well for me when I was post-orchiectomy and, later, post-implant removal.

I have recently noted a gaggle of law firms advertising suing testosterone replacement or enhancement drugs because of the risks of using them, such as heart problems, cancer, and the like. It is an individual choice whether, post-orchiectomy, to use some form of testosterone replacement. For myself, I never, never once, considered using any form of testosterone replacement. I was prescribed estrogen/progesterone "replacement" for several years following my orchiectomy.

Whereas I experienced testosterone as though being somewhat toxic, the female hormones and I got along fabulously. Perhaps that is because, in terms of the transgender spectrum, I have found I fit very well within the "two-spirit" tradition.

When I got my orchiectomy, my brother, three years older than me, had developed terminal cancer from a genetic condition, now labeled attenuated familial adenomatous polyposis. Unlike my brother, who died in 1987, I got what appear to have been decently effective cancer preventive surgeries in a sufficiently timely manner. Those surgeries have consisted of my orchiectomy and total colectomy with ileo-rectal anastomosis, both done in 1986, and a duodenal polypectomy done in 1990. Since 1990, I have had many outpatient surgeries, done with a sigmoidoscope or with the distal end of a colonoscope for what is left of my lower gastrointestinal tract, and with side view esophogastroduodenoscopy for my upper gastrointestinal tract.

By 1986, I had become resolutely determined to do whatever I could achieve to avoid committing suicide by testosterone and/or suicide by testosterone-enhanced cancer.

I was able to recognize that I did not fit into any conventional social stereotype of being a boy while yet in the age of infancy; testicles always seemed to me as though they really were some sort of accident for me; they never seemed to belong there. I suppose that could be thought of as a form of BIID. After the female hormones had helped me get the proper amount of gynecomastia, my brain said to me, in effect, "At last! My sense of what my body ought to be and my body now agree!"

When, in grade school, I began studying biology at college level using books in my parents' library, I was gratified to recognize that testicles seemed to be located where someone who had them "by mistake" might keep them long enough to become a parent and then easily part with them after their usefulness was over. I had figured that out before I was nine years of age.

For me, the notion of trying chemical castration would have been absurd and stupid. I have never wished that my life was different than it was, moment by moment, throughout my life.

Were I not of the two-spirit variety of human and not of the attenuated familial adenomatous polyposis variety of human, and were I not of the biologist/bioengineer variety of human, I surmise that I may well have made some very different choices than I made.

Testosterone and I had a lengthy engagement, a longer--somewhat troubled-- marriage, and, since 1986, have had a beautiful divorce...

On the other hand, my wife and I had a long enough engagement, a vastly longer marriage, and no divorce; not even the sort of divorce by cancer that my parents had or my brother and his wife had.

I have no advice,as such, for other people. Perhaps that is because I have no way to live the life of anyone other than myself. I can only tell of my life because I have no other life of which to tell.