Strike

[Classy Bitch (imported)]

E & P are both right, of course.

Not that CB isn't a stuborn, opinionated person (bitch) herself, but E & P are two I often click with and see their points more quickly than some.

My ridiculosity (got a friendly email from a now new friend who called me that, like it, and I like P's recognition and attribution of my dementia dimension) does not preclude a sensitivity.

CB no need feedback. Anyone that reads her shit can tell she is easily amused by herself. However, I try to read all the new stories and to write feedback. I find feedback writing difficult to write - where my short whacky stories usually take about 30 minutes to click out, feedback can take hours to compose. But should not we all stay composed? I spent hours and hours reading Latin just to say a few words to one of the site's best writers, and I still probably uckedup-fa ome-sa ords-wa.

This EA site is a special place. Freedom of diverse thought, etc.

Anger is an instinctive reaction to convince us in times of danger that we are right, to eliminate all doubt about our decisions during those instants. We don't need that instinct so much anymore, just like many of have concluded there are other innate things we have/had that we don't need anymore.

"The Truth Will Emerge"

Joseph Pulitizer or some Citizen Kane type of guy said that. It requires awkward dialog, patience, etc.

Please, this is just one person's plea: Let's not fight amongst ourselves.

Let's not strike anything or anyone. Let's forgive and support. Let's drink some Labatts. Count to ten (do it in metric, like we do in Oh Canada...)

- CB

[Mac (imported)]

But alas, like real physical communities, it seems that EA has fallen victim to the "I don't give a damn about you or your feelings, as long as I have my share of __________." attitude.

I have NEVER before seen so many uncaring and obnoxious and downright rude replies to someone before in my tenure here. Not to mention the fwd'd emails generated by it.

One thing I was reminded of on another board ... no matter what issues you have yourself, or what you think of someone else's issues in contrast, those issues are JUST AS VALID to that person as YOUR OWN are to YOU.

Don't think less of something that really matters to someone else just because it doesn't mean jack-shit to YOU.

And by the way, since it's not all that important anyway in the eyes of some members, I'll probably be closing down the entire Story/Author section of the boards soon.

Paolo,

Your observations are very true. If this forum is to survive and to help it's members with their issues, we must all be understanding and considerate of each other's views and comments. We all have a tendancy to be abrupt at times and must always remenber to give each other the benefit of any doubt. That has frequently been difficult for me to do as I have also received many rude comments, but I try to be understanding.

Everybody can't benefit from every story or post. However, every story or post has the potential to benefit some of us. For the benefit of everyb

ody, Do Not Close any part of the forum.

I dont think I can add anything to Paolox's post. Yes I am major pissed off and also very hurt by the comments made to me. It has been shown to me that I am not welcome here any longer and that people WANT me to.

And so this is my last post. I do not s

tay were I am not wanted and so

GOOD BYE!Don't Go Erik!

Everybody should be made to feel welcome here. All of our views and opinions are important.

You are right that some members have tendancies to make rude comments to others at times. We must all try to be more considerate of each other's views and also try not to be offended by another's rude comments. I have received many rude comments here but try to be understanding and forgiving. We are all searching for our own place in our own way. We should try to help each other in their search.

Please Stay and continue to participate.

[androboy (imported)]

That is the most pathetic appeal for attention I have ever encountered on this site. If the only reason you write stories is so people will tell you how much they like them then you should be writing children's novels or posting them on a pay site. If, instead, you write them because you enjoy them and want to allow others to enjoy them, then you shoudn't be caring about feedback.

that's a bit unfair and i do hope you have time to think about how insensitive your reply to Erik is and offer a retraction.

of course every author who posts here wants feedback -- it isn't in the least childish or pathetic. erik is a good person and a fantastic writer. he doesn't deserve being berated unkindly.

i suspect you are just as nice a person as erik and after some reflection, will understand that you were a bit harsh in your reply.

thanks

david

[androboy (imported)]

I dont think I can add anything to Paolox's post.

Yes I am major pissed off and also very hurt by the comments made to me.

It has been shown to me that I am not welcome here any longer and that people WANT me to.

And so this is my last post. I do not s

tay were I am not wanted and so

GOOD BYE!

well, if you don't stay where you are not wanted, it only seems logical that you stay where you are wanted. you know i have always appreciated your stories and like you as a poster. therefore, as a man of your word, you will have to stay since i and several others have made it clear that you are wanted.

i agree with your complaint that the lack of feedback can be discouraging sometimes. but, both you and i (and most others) are also guilty of not posting feedback to other authors as we could. there are lots of good reasons for why that is so -- busy outside schedule (pesky things like school, work, friends, etc), sometimes we are just being lazy and taking a little extra time to ourselves.

the point is, even though we don't always get or give the feedback we deserve and intend to share, we do like you and want you to stick around.

besides -- if you leave, how am i going to find out if your avatar is just having a bad day or if that pointed tail of his is causing him pain? he's kind of cute, and i'd hate to think that he's always going to be suffering pain because of his tail.

stick around, please

david

[Zoroaster (imported)]

I completely understand someone who wants feedback asking for it. I totally know the frustration of writing a bunch of stories and not getting any response whatsoever from anybody as to whether or not anybody likes, much less reads, the stuff you post, and to that extent completely agree with Erik.

The reason I wrote what I did was because of the (frankly) whiny nature of his post. If people really felt strongly enough about his, or my, or anybody's stories to post feedback for them then they would, and they do. If they don't, they don't. If Erik doesn't want to post here because of it, he doesn't have to, but nobody is obligated to give him feedback, nor should he, or anybody else, demand it. It's like giving someone an unexpected present and then getting angry because they didn't give you one back.

If it bothers him so much that nobody says anything, then solicit comments or go to the chat room; people in there tell me all the time that they like my stuff and I've barely even written anything lately. Asking for a critique or whatever is one thing, but demanding them or calling for a 'strike' is ludicrous. Not everyone writes stories for the sole sake of getting feedback - some people write them primarily for their own use and post them simply so other people can enjoy them.

Paolo's mad because we responded harshly, and he seems to think that Erik's issues aren't something we consider important. I dunno about anybody else, but I wrote what I did because the Archive IS important, and I don't like to see anybody threaten it, which is exactly what Erik's post looked like to me.

So, Erik, no, my intentions were not to hurt your feelings or anything, but I do stand by my original comment. I should have elucidated it further, but statements like 'I gave you readers one more chance' and attempting to disrupt the thing that this site was founded upon strike me as childish (as was hastily writing a reply to a post that pissed me off).

And no, I don't want you to go. The Archive needs as many authors as it can get - I remember well when days would pass between story submissions and would prefer not to return to them, even though 90% of the stories nowadays don't interest me personally. But Erik, do you not enjoy writing them? You say how much work it is, but what I don't see is why you would write them if all they are to you is work.

[Pueros]

I have a confession to make.

It was I who placed the suggestion of a strike by authors in Erik’s mind during a private conversation.

It was originally meant as a jest but Erik thought that the threat alone might be a good idea to stimulate some of our lurking readers to emerge from the shadows to comment on posted works, not only his own. Part of the idea was that it might also even create a useful further debate on the issue.

There are many, not least our devoted workaholic moderators, who appal the lack of feedback, which can be very off-putting, particularly for those who like to receive it to know that their efforts are appreciated and to obtain constructive criticism in order to help them perhaps improve. I can imagine that lack of response could be particularly worrisome for new writers, who might lack confidence and quickly depart the scene without some positive reader input from someone.

I advised Erik that I would be happy to give him my support for his scare tactic. Little did I know that it would rebound dramatically because a few of the regulars did not recognise the proposal as a sham but instead spat vitriol at a fellow major contributor. The latter attitude was inexcusable, even if the posters concerned felt that the strike was a real proposition.

I apologise to Erik for my own role in the debacle and also hope that others, who shall remain nameless, will climb down from their high horses to do likewise, as you shame yourselves and the board.

Meanwhile, I hope that Erik can forgive and forget this minority of *!*!*!*!* and continue his noble contribution to eunuch.org!

PUEROS

[DerangedDragon (imported)]

I wish to aoplogize to those who may have thought my post to this thread was meant to be taken negatively.

I do write for the "Adult Mass Market", with many of my stories appearing in print under other names. My other stories are all Gay themed, as well as Male-to-Female Transformations.

The idea of an author getting feedback, is one which is something nice to contemplate, but which would, in reality, seldom happen.

I get no feedabk from readers of the books I have had in hard copy, annd that doesn't bother me all that much - although fetting feedback from the editor of the book printing dept, is more to what hapens; I am not reall worried about getting feedback for a story I post here.

Maybe having the proof reader drop me a line about the need for some rewriting, is considered feedback (and it probably is), getting someone to send me something aboiut how they liked my story - well, if they liked it fine. If they didn't, fine.

And if they liked it well enough to want to send me a note to say they liked it - Excellent.

Deranged Dragon

[ringlo (imported)]

Meanwhile, I hope that Erik can forgive and forget this minority of *!*!*!*!* and continue his noble contribution to eunuch.org!

It certainly would be a loss for the archive.

Of course, I can read Erik's stories whereever he decides to post them. An most propably I will.

But the Eunuch Archive is -- an archive. Where else would someone look for informations or castration themed stories if not here? The importance of any archive stands or falls with it comprehensiveness.

I hope Erik will reconsider his decicion to leave. Not for my sake, not for yours, but for the sake of the archive and it's importance to this community now and (hopefully) for many years to come.

ringlo

[colin (imported)]

Paolo,

I note that you included a quote from my post in your blast at 'rude and uncaring' responses. I do not see how any rational person could construe what I wrote as either rude or uncaring. If I did not care, I would not have posted at all.

Eric demanded why he was not getting feedback and I responded as fairly as I could. If you had had the courtesy to read the sentence fully you would find that it is 'I shall not miss your other stories, but others may'.

No author can expect to please everyone. Unfortunately, it is an undeniable fact that there are only a small number of people who respond regularly. I will accept that I could respond more often than I do, but I have no intention a praising a story just for the sake of it.

The whole point about my post was that Eric's stories are not to my taste and therefore I do not post a response. Eric's stories are vastly superior to a lot of the stories on the board but the most critical things I would normally say are to do with formatting and spell checking. I do not want any author to leave the board.

If you, in a fit of pique or out of loyalty to your friend, do decide to close the story board then I would suggest that you are likely to seriously damage the Archive and all that it stands for. There are members. Andrew, for one, who do not visit the Archive for the story board, but there are many who, like me were drawn in by the stories and then stayed to try and contribute to the other fora where possible.

LOL

[Bboy]

Look,

Paolo is Erik's friend and it's an admirable thing to jump to the defense of one's friends.

We have done everything we can do to make Erik feel welcome here. He is, in fact, VERY welcome here. But I/We can't make people comment on stories.

Hopefully Erik will realize how many people really do care about him and come back and start posting again.

At some point he, and only he, has to decide whether he enjoys writing stories enough to write and post here.