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Re: apple to set example. USA to start manufacturing apple products within USA

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:47 pm
by foxytaur (imported)
bobover3 (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:36 pm Foxytaur, Cthulhu looks good in a suit. Lovecraft might have been more appreciative if he'd seen him that way.

Didn't see Cthulhu in that vid, unless that was him waving hello in the last shot.

Cthullu was the creature waving his tentacles in the end.

NB = Did ya notice the nulllification scene with the boy P?

Re: apple to set example. USA to start manufacturing apple products within USA

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:26 pm
by Dave (imported)
foxytaur (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:21 pm http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=6QFwo57W ... QFwo57WKwg

why yesh!!!!!......That's 2 people who've commented on it. Tiamat was the first 2 days ago

Since you asked kindly, above is fucked vid starring cthulu.You'll find cthullu where you least expect him

I have one Cthulhu story in print.

Here's my story - Durango Agonistes Died Yesterday -- in a volume of MYTHOS stories:

Print: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/148027 ... 00_s00_i00

Kindle: http://www.amazon.com/Mythos-Revisited- ... tic+horror

I've written others but they are waiting for the anthologies to be published.

One is "Meditations on a Dead World" in Techno Goth Cthulhu at Red Skies Press,

Another is "The Birthday Boy's Last Christmas" which will probably be published for Christmas 2013.

Fantastic Horror is probably going to do a second Lovecraft anthology.

Lovecraftian stories are fun to write. There is a plethora of monsters.

I noticed the mouth of tentacles on your avatar and immediately thought CTHULHU.

Re: apple to set example. USA to start manufacturing apple products within USA

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:38 pm
by foxytaur (imported)
http://climateandcapitalism.com/2012/04/02/four-laws/

well as soon as i get some cash your book will be on my waiting list. I need to read more anyways to help with my comprehension skills which are lacking somewhat.

Let's keep this apple related hehe. I noticed threads segway a lot.

I can't dismiss what speedvogel said regarding apples practices. behind business there's always motive and incentive to milk for more cash. In fact capitalism completly contradicts the 4 laws of ecology proposed by Barry commoner.

(link above)

NB = Bobover you may be right about natural gas rising as the next big thing. but you forgot one more resource which is above any petrochemical. Water.

75% is in ocean

3% which is fresh water

1% extractable and usable.

Oh yeah our population that is unsustainable if we continue with our unregulated ways.

All these prescriptive industrial technologies rely on fresh water in some way to manufacture these goods. electronics are not exempted from use of water.

Re: apple to set example. USA to start manufacturing apple products within USA

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:48 pm
by Dave (imported)
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>>http://www.nbcnews.com/business/macs-ma ... -1C7475426

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Macs made in USA could jump-start American manufacturing

Martha C. White , NBC News contributor

When Apple CEO Tim Cook told NBC’s Brian Williams the company plans to make one of its Mac lines in the United States next year, he offered an early glimpse of what the return of American manufacturing will look like. It bears little resemblance to a 20th-century factory floor.

“[It] likely means a few hundred new jobs,” said Peter Misek, managing director of technology research at Jefferies & Co. “It's a big start and show[s] the wage and productivity gap with Asia is closing.”

While it might be a big start, even hundreds of jobs won’t move the needle on unemployment. What’s promising is the idea that Apple’s multimillion-dollar investment will spark demand for a more close-to-home supply chain that could have a ripple effect.

“It’s possible they might do chip production here. They’re more and more involved with designing their own processors,” said Jason Dedrick, an associate professor in the School of Information Studies at Syracuse University.

Cook said that some components — like the processor and the glass for the iPhone — are already made in the U.S. “Things like circuit boards, batteries, displays, chips — any of those could potentially be made here,” Dedrick said. “Apple has a lot of control over their supply chain. They tend to dictate where and how things are done by their suppliers.”

Although Cook didn’t comment on which computers or what elements of manufacturing and assembly he was talking about, analysts say it’s probably going to be the iMacs that are sold in the United States.

Apple sold roughly 4.7 million Mac desktops -- which includes iMac, Mac mini and Mac Pro -- in fiscal 2012, according to its annual report, and about 40 percent of the company’s business is domestic. This adds up to a relatively small footprint, which would make sourcing both American labor and components easier.

There are also shipping costs to consider. “The iMac is one of the biggest products they make, so manufacturing and assembling in the United States would save them a lot on air freight or shipping,” said Stephen Baker, consumer technology analyst at the NPD Group.

The work Apple plans to do in the U.S. won’t just be final assembly — a crucial distinction, said Martin Sullivan, chief economist at Tax Analysts. “Manufacturing is much more labor-intensive than assembly… The big thing to me is the number of jobs and how much those jobs pay,” he said. For Apple, this translates to a better shot at getting tax breaks from municipalities where its facilities are located.

There are other business reasons why the United States is increasingly attractive as a manufacturing site. It’s getting more expensive for companies to manufacture goods in China. The rising price of energy — both to power the Chinese factories as well as to ship the finished goods to the U.S. — erodes the benefit of a cheaper labor force. And Chinese wages are rising, too, which narrows the advantage further.

Apple won’t need to rely on a vast labor force both because the product line is small and because this type of manufacturing relies much more on sophisticated robotics, Dedrick said.

Aside from requiring fewer people, another difference in the rebirth of manufacturing is the prominent role of China. Cook told Bloomberg that Apple would partner with other companies on its American manufacturing, which most likely means Foxconn, Baker said.

“You’re going to guess it would likely be Foxconn. There’s no reason to think they wouldn’t help Apple set up some kind off assembly line manufacturing in the U.S.” Foxconn has facilities in Houston, and a spokesman told Bloomberg Businessweek it plans to expand in the United States.

Apple weathered criticism following worker suicides at Foxconn factories in China, and the boost American-made computers would give its brand equity is something the company probably also took into account when making its decision, said Sullivan.

“It’s going to give them a lot of positive press and inoculate them from all the negative publicity they’re getting so far,” he said.

The move also puts Apple back in the position of being the standard-bearer for re-imagining the future, a move that could please investors in light of the recent slide that brought the stock to a nearly four-year low. On CNBC, UBS analyst Steve Milunovich said Apple’s revenue is hitting a peak as the categories it dominates mature, even as he praised Cook’s ambition.

Likewise, manufacturing in the United States, once given up for dead, has shown other signs of life recently. Reuters reported that Boeing plans to ramp up output by 25 percent over the next year and a half, and auto sales rose 15 percent in November. In a statement responding to Apple’s news, the Alliance for American Manufacturing referenced a “growing list of major manufacturers that see the United States as an attractive location.”