Gosh, I am sorry. I wasn't thinking. It won't happen again.

I don't know if this is along your sense of humor, but if so, have you seen the King of Hill episode where Hank gets his renewed driver's license and it says Female. It is an amusing take on petty bureaucrats and how our society has gotten locked into procedures, even if it is the system that screwed up and the mistake is patently obvious to anyone with common sense.

Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:41 am Gosh, I am sorry. I wasn't thinking. It won't happen again.

I don't know if this is along your sense of humor, but if so, have you seen the King of Hill episode where Hank gets his renewed driver's license and it says Female. It is an amusing take on petty bureaucrats and how our society has gotten locked into procedures, even if it is the system that screwed up and the mistake is patently obvious to anyone with common sense.

Dahling, Don't worry about it. i learned a long time ago that if someone is trying to be offensive and pick a fight, the stupidest thing I can do is give it to him. And if he does it innocently then getting upset is silly. I know you well enough to know it was innocent.

re King of the Hill, I rarely watch network TV but I do like that one. I see I can download the episode from Amazon for $2. If I get time I'll watch it today or tomorrow.

Tramsward

I agree.

But, if I said it - it would polarize.

References withheld for safety and civility.

In my introductory posts, I indicated that there could be issues related to my Archive participation and my licensed professional status. This issue has finally risen to what I experience as impinging on paramount importance to me, professionally.

I am licensed as a Wisconsin Registered Professional Engineer, and my work, including what I post on the Archive, I do in accord with the Code of Ethics of the National Society of Professional Engineers (NSPE). That Code of Ethics, as briefly summarized as can accomplish summarizing it, is tantamount to, in my work, I am to hold paramount the public safety, work only in areas of my professional competence, and do both of those without deception.

The issue at hand for me is simply that I find "politics" to be the process whereby public policy becomes established, and my work as a professional engineer in the public safety interest is inescapably political in form and function.

Because, methinks, political postings are, at present, taboo, what I can post on the Archive in accord with the NSPE Code of Ethics has been dramatically altered (diminished) by the present political posting taboo.

Divisive, reciprocal retaliatory bashing is, to me, but a very small aspect of what I find to be political, and is, to me, about as pure anathema as I have been able to imagine being possible.

Nonetheless, it is my inner conscience acting in accord with the NSPE Code of Ethics that determines, for me, what I can post on the Archive and how I can post it.

I am not quitting the Archive, I am not abandoning it, and I am not, in any way I can recognize, disrespecting the Archive or the Archive membership.

Neither am I willing or able to be entrained within any form of subjectively-experienced double-bind or greater-than-double-bind.

I successfully sought cancer-risk-minimizing surgeries, starting in the summer of 1986 with my bilateral orchiectomy, because I could, in accord with my conscience, recognize no other way to continue to live in any way I thought could be decent for myself, my family, and others.

How, I wonder, is that different from why anyone else seeks castration?

Or, is that a question so entwined with public policy as to portend of being unacceptably political?

If so, for, and to, whom? Or, is that an inappropriate question in itself?

I am not asking for any responses to this posting. Nor am I intending to discourage them.

Many times during my life, I have observed life "getting messy."

And so forth...

I read the political forum and bob represented my views very well and I never felt the need to risk being banned for making my views known.

I for one will not miss the political stuff as i use the political forum .com as it has about the same format and there is no fear of banning for exercising free speech.

It can stay gone forever as that is not what I came to this site for and seemed to me to be the only un civil part of the whole site.

I feel the most uncivil will feel withdrawal symptoms very soon .

My 2 cents and now I will go back to just observing.

this is a repost from another thread, point taken from adam3117 thank you.

Yes we are badly in need of a vacation from the minute by minute monitoring of the political board, I am planing a long vacation of a year or two, I have not decided if I will turn it back on or it may never be turned back on which is what we are all looking at and the more I think about it the better it sounds.

This site is not about politics but Eunuch and Transgendered issues first and foremost something that has never escaped those of us who keep this site up and running. When the political board leads to the attacks of members by members it does effect other threads on this board, we have received more complaints about the existence of the political thread then any other thread on this site from those that never post there. so there is much for us to consider and if the political board is ever turned back on it will not be like it has been in the past. There are switches we can use to isolate that thread from the rest, something that we will discuss I am sure at our next annual meeting in August.

River

Although some might say I've been guilty of uncivil posts in the political section, I'm glad to see it gone. I'm a firm believer that it's impossible to have civil discussions about politics. As I've said before, I don't allow politics to be discussed on my site. Some people don't like it, but after being reminded, having their threads closed, and in the extreme case, being banned, they stop discussing it. You don't have to worry about politics bleeding over into other forums, if you nip it in the bud, whenever it's posted.

As to politics, if someone is posting shit you think is absolute bullshit, it's hard to reply politely.

stink is stink... no doubt about it!!!

...there is one thing about the Political Board cannot be denied. We are a diverse group, with WIDESPREAD political viewpoints.

If the phenomenon that the E.A. is cannot be pigeonholed by ideology, then this means that there must be some substance to it that allows it to stand on its own.

Some always argue there is nothing about the Political Section relevant to the EA purpose.

EA has a diverse group of people, some very accomplished people, some very bright people who did not acquire traditional documents of accomplishments, brighter then the average gang.

Over the years I have invited complainers to link me to a better Political area.

DriveWeSaid is too busy. No discussion possible because when you come back the next day the drift is fifty messages added.

Yahoo News Blogs can be fun but the best discussions disappear in a week.

It is by virtue of a population just the right size, well educated that made the Political Forum as vital as it was.

I don't understand the name calling. Especially when it is posted on different threads relevant to nothing but making a splash. (names deleted)

I hope someday, the forum comes back and persons who are unable to maintain civility be given a 6 month hiatus.

I hope someday, the forum comes back and if one feels it is NOT their cup of tea, don't enter.

I mean what is FREEDOM all about? Being FREE to inflict on others? Not my FREEDOM.

Sincerely

Moi

ENOUGH.

Sometimes you just don't have a clue when to stop talking.