transward (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:07 pm What scares me is to extrapolate just a bit. Take this technology, add to it the fact that "facial recognition" software is near to being able to do the same thing with our faces (plus the French ban on facial coverings) and the acceptance of surveillance cameras of public areas, plus locators in our cell phones' and the very concept of privacy in public becomes impossible. "They" could know exactly where you are and where you are going and what you are doing an who you are meeting every time you stepped outside your home.

Transward

fhunter wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:54 pm It is not the knowledge about location, that bothers me much. It is that access to this knowledge is one-sided.

One more thing that bothers me, is that modern security measures are reactive. They got some incident, they react to it. No one really thinks or implements prevention straight and according to the model of threats. I can start with information security idiocies from the company I work in. I can continue with USA's "homeland insecurity". But it is probably a topic for a loong and thoughtfull post, for which I do not have time now.

PS. Even without gps in cell phone, it can be located to about 1 km^2 on average. It is even more precise in the city. (I speak of GSM phones). The more basestations in view, the better.

Dave (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 3:55 pm Plus $15.85 shipping...

I'll bet its the stuff that also used to reflect radar from the back of cars so you couldn't get caught driving too fast.

Or the license plate cover with the LED's that dazzle radar and cameras.

Or the cover that is polarized to reflect light away from he traffic cameras.

Do you know that if you put dimple or pucker marks all over your car like a golf ball that you will get better mileage. The saving in money is only offset by the fact that everyone will call you "Dimples" from that point on... It could be worse, they could call you "pucker" ...

moi621 (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:14 pm They know your location, the web sites you watch, the TV channels you watch, record your FasTrac through the toll booth.

Can the Mark of the Beast be far behind or are we there yet?

Not there yet. One can still opt out of the allure of electronics. Refuse FasTrac, cellphones, computers, and only watch/listen to airwaves broadcasts. Use cash, no plastic. Some hard paper checks as required.

Who is The Beast?

The President's Analyst said it was the global telephone company, Ma Bell.

Suggestions. No it is NOT the <doom> Federals <Darth Vadar breath sounds>.

Something more global. Suggestions?

Moi

You don't have to be paranoid to know they watch.

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:22 am Moi, this would be true in your case, I am sure they have been watching you for years.