Paterno was held in too high of esteem not only at Penn State but in most of Pennsylvania. Nobody ever considered challenging him.

However, the sanctions against the school and future students are excessive.

Paterno deserves to go from to

Mac (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:04 am Paterno was held in too high of esteem not only at Penn State but in most of Pennsylvania. Nobody ever considered challenging him.

However, the sanctions against the school and future students are excessive.

Paterno deserves to go from to

The fines and sanctions are excessive way over the top, it punishes the innocent.

As for Paterno no mac, he does not deserve that.

What is interesting is this fine not only effects the school but also the business around the school, this was meant to hurt the school and community for the wrong doing of a few, it only serves to hurt those who did nothing wrong.

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:38 am I wonder if their are enough colleges and universities that have finally had enough of the madness that is the NCAA, NO hearings, NO trial for the school, just a dictator running the show. So I ask again are their enough colleges and universities ready to tell the NCAA to go fuck themselves?

River

Are you joking me? Is this a joke post? These people, Joe Paterno as well as the school president and athletic director and many others, shielded a pedophile to protect their precious football program from bad publicity, that has nothing to do with education to begin with. They allowed children to be raped to protect their investment. It's disgusting and I hope when all is said and done, they all go to jail. The NCAA is not a court and need not give hearings. That is for the law. I think most people believe they should have been fined, took the loses of scholarships, bowl ban and $60million fine and all the wins vacated after they knew, after a three year death penalty.

In my opinion, these people are slime balls and I find them all quite sickening and it is really bothersome to hear people say how poor Penn State should not be punished for their disgusting behavior. No, they protect a pedophile, they pay the price. End of story.

Elizabeth

Elizabeth (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2012 6:01 pm In my opinion, these people are slime balls and I find them all quite sickening and it is really bothersome to hear people say how poor Penn State should not be punished for their disgusting behavior. No, they protect a pedophile, they pay the price. End of story.

Elizabeth

Your right, I stand corrected, those kids should be punished for years along with the town after all they support this corrupt school it should be torn down to the ground and put in a nice petting zoo in its place.

You did not read my posts on this, should the school be fined, yes, should the kids going to the school be punished NO. This dictator of the NCAA did not punish Penn State he took vengeance.

No on second thought, a Petting ZOO.

River

I think it is sad that so many students will be hurt by this ruling but there were also to many young boys hurt when the collage turned there back on them to save there image.From a dad that had his kids taken advantage by a pedophile I have to say the NCAA did what it had to so a message was sent to others that this kind of behavior by a collage administration will not be rewarded with just a slap on the wrist.I WILL not defend this kind of behavior be any one and never a collage.

O.K. fine the school 60 million, ban them from bowl competition for four years, release

Dave (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:17 am current football players so they can transfer to other universities,

but cut the football scholarships by 10? What kid is going to want to play for Penn State in the first place after all of this? What can the football coach offer them? Those that do choose to play are probably kids that have few options or they'll be third rate players who would otherwise be playing for small division II schools. If they go to Penn State they're going to get killed in the Big Ten.

They didn't take away Penn State's TV rights, they'll be on TV? What television station is going to show them or pick up their game? No one will watch, no one will care, unless you enjoy massacres. Maybe if Penn State plays some team that they've dominated over the years, it'll get picked up by a local station. Other than that, no one else will watch.

Penn State, should actually devise a schedule where they play the absolute minimum Big Ten teams for the next four years and schedule a whole lot of Division II teams, where they'll lose, but maybe they'll be a little bit competitive. They should have received the death penalty for one year, it would have been more merciful.

Oh and please, I am very sympathetic to the victims. The guilty should pay, Sandusky should be publicly castrated. Enough said. The new football coach has secured a nice living for himself and his family. He won't be fired for at least four or five years because everyone knows he can't win anyways due to the situation so they won't be expecting him to win, the NCAA is actually forcing him to lose.

I think the NCAA made a very strong statement here. The Penn State football program was legendary for its successes, but that success brought an arrogance that allowed a known pedophile to remain in the program, and further that action allowed for more victioms of this monster. I feel no sense of loss for the football program, they got what they deserved.

What IS sad to me is that so many students who never have any dealings with football will be affected. These big money sports schools fund lesser programs with the cash that sports bring in. How many deserving students will not have the best opportunities because of their actions. The NCAA needed to make sure that other programs were not cut because of the evil doings in the athletic department.

Personally , I think they were a bit lenient. Had I been sittong on the decision making board, I might well have banned them from football forever.

Raymar

Remember, there are 19 satellite campuses to the Penn State University System. None of them have football. Only the main campus has the football team.

So before you go pronouncing judgment on ALL of Penn State, remember, it's not one physical place, it's spread all across Pennsylvania. And many of its students are two-year associate degrees or Continuing Education programs for those already working that want to advance. IT's not uncommon for indstry to ask for an associate degree, employ a person and ask them to get the Bachelors at night. Penn State makes that very easy.

If your "vision" of Penn State is one huge campus, then you are wrong.

Dave,

If your comment was directed to me, I am aware of the size and scope of Penn State. Frankly , programs thruout their system will be affected by this mess. As revenue drops from the athletic program, they will surely cut the less "visible" programs first. Whether that be by closing smaller satellite campuses or paring back classes, who knows. Its just so sad that the actions of a few will have such far reaching effects on so many.

Paterno built this huge and successful program, and then by his own devious actions, managed to tear it right back down, and ruin his own good name in the process. Really sad. all to save a little face over a pedophile.

I sincerely hope that this will be a lesson to institutions thruout the country to look at whats in their house, and clean out any bad seeds. Never again should we have to worry that someone like Sandusky will be shielded from what is their due.

Raymar

PS- for me there is no greater crime that to steal the innocence of a child, and mark their life forever. Pedophiles should be turned loose into an angry mob to meet their justice.

Even though Penn State is a school, it is also a business, and an institution. NCAA does not decide what they do academically, their only interest is what happens in the name of college sport. All they can do is try to affect that aspect of things.

What they are doings, is going after the business, and institution that used sport as a way to endanger the lives of children. They are within their right to do what they have done. That they have offered for students who have NCAA scholarships to continue their education even if they choose not to participate in the sport is commendable. It shows they do not want to see anyone's education suffer.

They have reduced NCAA athletic scholarships to Penn State from 25 to 15. I see that as their attempt to use as little of the NCAA funds as possible in support of the business that supported a pedophile. One can only hope that they would increase scholarships to other schools by the number they reduced Penn State's.

I know kids who wanted to go to Penn State on a NCAA athletics scholarship are going to have a more difficult time. I know that the university will sadly cut back in other areas to make up the monetary shortfall, and this sucks for kids who did nothing wrong. HOWEVER, it is not the NCAA that is going to make those cuts. It is the University.

It is the University that has done this to those kids, NOT the NCAA. This is the university reaping what it has sewn. The university deserves to lose money on this. It was their actions and inaction (cover-up) that led directly to this. If I were a parent, I'd be encouraging my child to attend any university but this one.

There is a lot of rage directed at the NCAA, and I think it is misplaced. The NCAA is merely reacting to what it has learnt. It didn't create the problem in the first place, and it is trying to do what is in its limited power to ever prevent this sort of thing from happening again... at least not in the name of programs overseen or under the banner of the NCAA.

At least, that is my take on things, after having done a little research into what the NCAA is and does.

Please feel free to correct me on this.

Thanks.