knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:17 pm What are the reasons why some eunuchs end up with bad depression and even commit suicide?

Maybe it's from constant teasing and ridicule from school on as in, "Goddamnit! What the holy fuck is wrong with you!¿?! You're no-o-o good for chiette!!! You're just not good at anything. -Anything at all. Ain't you got no balls or WHAT¿!!?

Eunuch's life seems scattered with some inconveniences.

And the peace (or calm) of the eunuch where it is ?

Can it help to endure these inconveniences?

Thank you for speaking to us about it.

regardless if statistics exist, if you were to make an educated guess, would you say suicide is more prone in High T men or Low T men?

knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:23 am regardless if statistics exist, if you were to make an educated guess, would you say suicide is more prone in High T men or Low T men?

I am not aware of any research, or even educated guesses, that would answer this question. In my opinion Testosterone levels would be only a small factor if it is a factor at all in suicides. The things leading to suicide seem to be many and the interaction of them is complicated. --FLO--

I think anybody that has ever taken all the time necessary to thoroughly and completely think all about their life, and has ever considered whether they were serving any useful purpose at all, and whether their life was worth living afterall would only come to one conclusion: I'm not doing anybody any good and my life is NOT worth living! But then after arriving to this conclusion you look around at others and you see all kinds of examples of people that probably shouldn't be living either. They may have just never thought it out. Or they may have just decided to go on living to see what happens next. So if they're alive then why can't I also be alive too. I don't think testosterone or estrogen has anything to do with whether anyone actually commits suicide or not but whether they've taken the time to think it out or not. Testosterone may be implicated in mindless behaviors but so is the teenage brain too.

It has been my observation that stable low T people tend to have more depression, of the passive, lethargic no energy type than men with normal T. But people with changing T levels such as after castration, or changing hormone dosage often have the kind of wild mood swings that lead to the kind of violently active depression that causes suicide.

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transward (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:13 pm It has been my observation that stable low T people tend to have more depression, of the passive, lethargic no energy type than men with normal T. But people with changing T levels such as after castration, or changing hormone dosage often have the kind of wild mood swings that lead to the kind of violently active depression that causes suicide.

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I can attest to this. It is the swings in my hormone levels that cause me to go off the rails. One of those effects can be a particularly nasty temper, that seems to flare up for no reason. What is really happening is a sudden drop-off in testosterone. The temper always hits just before the depression. Once in the depressed state, I can pull myself out, but remain lethargic and unmotivated. Once I level off, I am much more myself, and human again.

It is amazing how much our hormones affect our thinking and our reactions. We like to think our brains are independent of our hormones, but they are entwined in a very real and measurable way.

Thousands of Chinese men became eunuchs for hundreds of years until the Qing Dynasty ended in 1912. I often wonder how all those eunuchs coped with depression. Maybe they were able to offer each other support and encouragement. They certainly didn't have access to HRT or anti-depressants.

eunuch2001 (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:58 pm Thousands of Chinese men became eunuchs for hundreds of years until the Qing Dynasty ended in 1912. I often wonder how all those eunuchs coped with depression. Maybe they were able to offer each other support and encouragement. They certainly didn't have access to HRT or anti-depressants.

Ginseng ...........

Ginseng ...........

I'd never thought of ginseng, nor do I recall seeing it mentioned in any research into Chinese eunuchs. Do you have a source of information or was ginseng an educated guess? On the subject of herbs and drugs I've often wondered if the Chinese cutters used opium for pain relief. Bearing in mind there were 100,000 eunuchs at the end of the Ming Dynasty, and many of these volunteered for castration, the surgeons must have had plenty of experience and the surgery can't have been too terrifyingly painful. I don't recall how many eunuchs were around when the Qing Dynasty ended.